Balboa Super-micro Bones in the Rain - good sign!

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Went on a tide-shift exploratory Wed evening arriving about 5p to sporadic rain and boils on micro smelt. Tossed a LC 110 and a die 3 kroc for not, finding some traction with splasher rig. But only interested during the boils.

Super tiny but already 2 sizes and I saw a couple boiling fish that were bigger. The two of us picked off 2 limits in 2 hours with a lot of misses, hard to hook set small fish on surface. None will go to waste!
 

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I completely enjoy this site and I love fishing.... I have a signed Ken Jones book !!!. But Seriously, On this post I have to ask a question because the decline of our local fisheries….Why would you dispatch and keep a Bonito or any other fish for that matter that is the size of a mans fist? I cannot comprehend. I see it on the piers and it’s absurd. No prizes for killing fish the size of the bait. My personal opinion.
 

Rusty

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I completely enjoy this site and I love fishing.... I have a signed Ken Jones book !!!. But Seriously, On this post I have to ask a question because the decline of our local fisheries….Why would you dispatch and keep a Bonito or any other fish for that matter that is the size of a mans fist? I cannot comprehend. I see it on the piers and it’s absurd. No prizes for killing fish the size of the bait. My personal opinion.
You are entitled to your opinion, however, they are within their legal rights, and have said they are going to be eaten, so I don’t see anything wrong with that. Anglers within their limits are not going to deplete the ocean, go after the big corporations with giant nets if you are that concerned, or all the guys doing things illegally.

I have my own opinions also, and I personally would not take those home, but I also don’t take home most fish I catch, most go back, unless i foul hooked them or maybe if someone else asks for it. I don’t see a problem with it. But as i said, as long as they are within the rules and laws, no need to start a problem. They are entitled to do what they want as long as they aren’t breaking the law.
 
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I completely enjoy this site and I love fishing.... I have a signed Ken Jones book !!!. But Seriously, On this post I have to ask a question because the decline of our local fisheries….Why would you dispatch and keep a Bonito or any other fish for that matter that is the size of a mans fist? I cannot comprehend. I see it on the piers and it’s absurd. No prizes for killing fish the size of the bait. My personal opinion.
Maybe you should find a Vegan fishing Forum? Those fish have already been prepared 3 different ways for consumption. What does size matter? Really an ignorant unqualified question. That's my opinion.
Maybe you should keep your unqualified opinions directed to people who take undersized fish, or fill buckets full of sardines or mackerel sitting and rotting in the sun all day. What about people who catch small fish to use for bait, Is that OK with you? Killing 10, 20 30 small fish to maybe catch a fish bigger than your fist? Sheesh
 

Ken Jones

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#9
The ethical discussion on taking smaller, younger fish versus larger, older fish is one we have had several times and the thoughts differ per person. It should be noted that the legal limit for smaller bonito (5) was followed. It should also be remembered that bonito are not endangered and that the reality is that a fairly small percentage of bonito (and other fish) make it to adulthood. Just as they feeed on smaller fish, other fish feed on them.
 

Ken Jones

Administrator
Staff member
#11
Ethics are the principles that governs ones thoughts so discussions such as this fall into that realm. For some it's not even a question if the action is legal. Some may feel that even though an action is legal it may not be the best thing to do. Each person decides those issues on his or her own and threads over the years have shown a wide variance in how the questions are answered. Just my 2 cents.
 

bassfanatick

Well-Known Member
#12
I completely enjoy this site and I love fishing.... I have a signed Ken Jones book !!!. But Seriously, On this post I have to ask a question because the decline of our local fisheries….Why would you dispatch and keep a Bonito or any other fish for that matter that is the size of a mans fist? I cannot comprehend. I see it on the piers and it’s absurd. No prizes for killing fish the size of the bait. My personal opinion.
Boy, you are already irate at people keeping legal catches......imagine your tantrum when you see or experience people keeping illegal juvenile white seabasses and such on the pier, and it happens every single day. One time I was fishing on the pier and caught a few Macks, a woman, let's call her Karen, approached and asked why I put the fish in the bag and let it die slowly in there? My answer for her "I am sorry, I have family to feed."
 
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Boy, you are already irate at people keeping legal catches......imagine your tantrum when you see or experience people keeping illegal juvenile white seabasses and such on the pier, and it happens every single day. One time I was fishing on the pier and caught a few Macks, a woman, let's call her Karen, approached and asked why I put the fish in the bag and let it die slowly in there? My answer for her "I am sorry, I have family to feed."
Nice story bro.
 
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I remember June 13.1979 at Balboa pier-it was overcast and around 10am there were 10 people total at the end of the pier. Myself, my brother and a few other guys fishing. I was fishing with a lucky joe rig and caught 2 small bonito. Within a few minutes, THE WATER TURNED BLACK WITH BONITO. There were millions of them. You line wouldnt even sink. we caught quite a few and brought them home on the bus. I remember a few weeks later there was a boil that stretched as far as I could see from the wedge past newport pier and birds diving all along the line that went for miles. The bonito moved in again and the pier was packed with fishermen and thousands were caught that day. Guess what i saw in fed mart for sale in the fall in the food section. CANNED BONITO-guess what 1980 had 1 bonito run for the entie year on balboa pier-easter sunday-the seiners went after the bonito and they dissapeared. 1983 had an amazing run on balboa pier on august 27 1983 when there were 3-5 pounders mixed with 1-2 pounders that bit solid for hours- never saw another day like that again.

The seiners in Mexico are killing off the bonito as a wall of death exists down there so they never make it up here. Only the little ones get through the nets. A few guys at the pier keeping small fish make zero impact on this fishery. The cat food industry has massacred the pelagic fisheries, not the guy with a crocodile and a small bucket.

in the summer of 1987, i had my driven my datsun pickup and my small skiff down in ensenada for a weeklong trip and was out about 5 miles and the entire bay from the launch ramp to the bufadora was one big flotilla of small bonito casually jumping out of the water. The schools stretched for miles and miles. No guy in a skiff with a splasher or diamond jig could make a dent in that.

The fishery was destroyed by commercial fishing, not recreational fishing. It struggles to come back year after year. Because the small ones came up in the warm water, they will grow here and by the fall they will be 1-2 pounds.
 
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bassfanatick

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I remember June 13.1979 at Balboa pier-it was overcast and around 10am there were 10 people total at the end of the pier. Myself, my brother and a few other guys fishing. I was fishing with a lucky joe rig and caught 2 small bonito. Within a few minutes, THE WATER TURNED BLACK WITH BONITO. There were millions of them. You line wouldnt even sink. we caught quite a few and brought them home on the bus. I remember a few weeks later there was a boil that stretched as far as I could see from the wedge past newport pier and birds diving all along the line that went for miles. The bonito moved in again and the pier was packed with fishermen and thousands were caught that day. Guess what i saw in fed mart for sale in the fall in the food section. CANNED BONITO-guess what 1980 had 1 bonito run for the entie year on balboa pier-easter sunday-the seiners went after the bonito and they dissapeared. 1983 had an amazing run on balboa pier on august 27 1983 when there were 3-5 pounders mixed with 1-2 pounders that bit solid for hours- never saw another day like that again.

The seiners in Mexico are killing off the bonito as a wall of death exists down there so they never make it up here. Only the little ones get through the nets. A few guys at the pier keeping small fish make zero impact on this fishery. The cat food industry has massacred the pelagic fisheries, not the guy with a crocodile and a small bucket.

in the summer of 1979, i had my driven my datsun pickup and my small skiff down in ensenada for a weeklong trip and was out about 5 miles and the entire bay from the launch ramp to the bufadora was one big flotilla of small bonito casually jumping out of the water. The schools stretched for miles and miles. No guy in a skiff with a splasher or diamond jig could make a dent in that.

The fishery was destroyed by commercial fishing, not recreational fishing. It struggles to come back year after year. Because the small ones came up in the warm water, they will grow here and by the fall they will be 1-2 pounds.
What a story, I wish I can see something like this in my lifetime.
 

Fishman Fishman

Well-Known Member
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Went on a tide-shift exploratory Wed evening arriving about 5p to sporadic rain and boils on micro smelt. Tossed a LC 110 and a die 3 kroc for not, finding some traction with splasher rig. But only interested during the boils.

Super tiny but already 2 sizes and I saw a couple boiling fish that were bigger. The two of us picked off 2 limits in 2 hours with a lot of misses, hard to hook set small fish on surface. None will go to waste!
Thank you for the report. I was wandering when the Bonito would show up. Hope they stick around.
 
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I remember June 13.1979 at Balboa pier-it was overcast and around 10am there were 10 people total at the end of the pier. Myself, my brother and a few other guys fishing. I was fishing with a lucky joe rig and caught 2 small bonito. Within a few minutes, THE WATER TURNED BLACK WITH BONITO. There were millions of them. You line wouldnt even sink. we caught quite a few and brought them home on the bus. I remember a few weeks later there was a boil that stretched as far as I could see from the wedge past newport pier and birds diving all along the line that went for miles. The bonito moved in again and the pier was packed with fishermen and thousands were caught that day. Guess what i saw in fed mart for sale in the fall in the food section. CANNED BONITO-guess what 1980 had 1 bonito run for the entie year on balboa pier-easter sunday-the seiners went after the bonito and they dissapeared. 1983 had an amazing run on balboa pier on august 27 1983 when there were 3-5 pounders mixed with 1-2 pounders that bit solid for hours- never saw another day like that again.

The seiners in Mexico are killing off the bonito as a wall of death exists down there so they never make it up here. Only the little ones get through the nets. A few guys at the pier keeping small fish make zero impact on this fishery. The cat food industry has massacred the pelagic fisheries, not the guy with a crocodile and a small bucket.

in the summer of 1979, i had my driven my datsun pickup and my small skiff down in ensenada for a weeklong trip and was out about 5 miles and the entire bay from the launch ramp to the bufadora was one big flotilla of small bonito casually jumping out of the water. The schools stretched for miles and miles. No guy in a skiff with a splasher or diamond jig could make a dent in that.

The fishery was destroyed by commercial fishing, not recreational fishing. It struggles to come back year after year. Because the small ones came up in the warm water, they will grow here and by the fall they will be 1-2 pounds.
The Boils of 3-5lb class fish were a sight to behold!