OC/LA people (those who fish the Huntington Beach Pier) — I need Your thoughts

[Ken Jones]

I received a note from someone at the California Coastal Commission regarding a proposal to replace the old bait and tackle building mid-pier with a large restaurant. If built there would be considerable loss of angling space. I will be talking to him soon but could also use your thoughts.

The proposal: Application No. 5-22-0804 (Surf City Partners, LLC, Huntington Beach) Application of Surf City Partners LLC to convert vacant, former bait, tackle, & sundries shop on Huntington Beach pier to restaurant, project to include additions to existing building that formerly housed the bait, tackle & sundries shop as well as to existing public restroom building on pier. All additions are to serve the restaurant; project will result in 1,506 sq.ft. of encroachment into public pier area to accommodate restaurant; also proposed is placement of three, 32 sq.ft. vending carts on pier, at 21 and 22 Main St. (located on the pier), Huntington Beach, Orange County. (MV-LB)

 

[TheFrood]

All additions are to serve the restaurant; project will result in 1,506 sq.ft. of encroachment into public pier area to accommodate restauran

Why doesn't this surprise me? In addition to eliminating something accessible and usable by all the people on the pier (sundries shop with fishing bait, tackle, etc) they are eliminating roughly 15' x 100' of public space. And the way I read the above text it seems that the additions that are being added, possibly the existing public facilities as well (restrooms), will be only for the accommodation of the new restaurant. How does this benefit any of the public that previous used this pier? This pier is well used by a wide variety of people isn't it? Also, isn't there already a restaurant at the end of the pier?

ROFL if you look at google maps they already uploaded renderings of the restaurant on the midpoint of the pier as if it's already there.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/H...d-118.0053302!10e5!16s/g/11rck2r1c0?entry=ttu

 

[HookedUp!]

I received a note from someone at the California Coastal Commission regarding a proposal to replace the old bait and tackle building mid-pier with a large restaurant. If built there would be considerable loss of angling space. I will be talking to him soon but could also use your thoughts.

The proposal: Application No. 5-22-0804 (Surf City Partners, LLC, Huntington Beach) Application of Surf City Partners LLC to convert vacant, former bait, tackle, & sundries shop on Huntington Beach pier to restaurant, project to include additions to existing building that formerly housed the bait, tackle & sundries shop as well as to existing public restroom building on pier. All additions are to serve the restaurant; project will result in 1,506 sq.ft. of encroachment into public pier area to accommodate restaurant; also proposed is placement of three, 32 sq.ft. vending carts on pier, at 21 and 22 Main St. (located on the pier), Huntington Beach, Orange County. (MV-LB)

I've never fished behind the tackle shop before, as that is usually where the wind is the strongest, but I am opposed to yet another restaurant. The Broad Street Oyster Company is a downgrade from Ruby's, as the restaurant does not offer a take-out menu, and there is nothing on the menu that is under $25. I do not believe another expensive restaurant is necessary for the pier. In regards to the bathrooms, I have had many successful trips fishing behind the restroom building, as it provides shelter from the wind. I hope the building is not altered.

 

[Fishman Fishman]

I received a note from someone at the California Coastal Commission regarding a proposal to replace the old bait and tackle building mid-pier with a large restaurant. If built there would be considerable loss of angling space. I will be talking to him soon but could also use your thoughts.

The proposal: Application No. 5-22-0804 (Surf City Partners, LLC, Huntington Beach) Application of Surf City Partners LLC to convert vacant, former bait, tackle, & sundries shop on Huntington Beach pier to restaurant, project to include additions to existing building that formerly housed the bait, tackle & sundries shop as well as to existing public restroom building on pier. All additions are to serve the restaurant; project will result in 1,506 sq.ft. of encroachment into public pier area to accommodate restaurant; also proposed is placement of three, 32 sq.ft. vending carts on pier, at 21 and 22 Main St. (located on the pier), Huntington Beach, Orange County. (MV-LB)

I received a note from someone at the California Coastal Commission regarding a proposal to replace the old bait and tackle building mid-pier with a large restaurant. If built there would be considerable loss of angling space. I will be talking to him soon but could also use your thoughts.

The proposal: Application No. 5-22-0804 (Surf City Partners, LLC, Huntington Beach) Application of Surf City Partners LLC to convert vacant, former bait, tackle, & sundries shop on Huntington Beach pier to restaurant, project to include additions to existing building that formerly housed the bait, tackle & sundries shop as well as to existing public restroom building on pier. All additions are to serve the restaurant; project will result in 1,506 sq.ft. of encroachment into public pier area to accommodate restaurant; also proposed is placement of three, 32 sq.ft. vending carts on pier, at 21 and 22 Main St. (located on the pier), Huntington Beach, Orange County. (MV-LB)

There currently is a good selection of eating establishments on or near pier. Public already has several choices for food.

Encroaching on limited pier fishing space to add another restaurant is not a balance between public use interests. It's primarily a potential revenue generator for the city.

Also, any new "successful restaurant venture" will bring traffic and pedestrian congestion. Parking is a challenge already. The pier area is a madhouse on weekends and holidays.

In addition, the potential negative ramifications for neighboring piers such as Balboa, Newport, Seal Beach and Belmont will be over crowding on these piers, by HB fisherman displaced during the construction phase of the proposed restaurant.

I say a " no vote" for this project.

 

[Ken Jones]

Thanks for your thoughts guys.

Why doesn't this surprise me? In addition to eliminating something accessible and usable by all the people on the pier (sundries shop with fishing bait, tackle, etc) they are eliminating roughly 15' x 100' of public space. And the way I read the above text it seems that the additions that are being added, possibly the existing public facilities as well (restrooms), will be only for the accommodation of the new restaurant. How does this benefit any of the public that previous used this pier? This pier is well used by a wide variety of people isn't it? Also, isn't there already a restaurant at the end of the pier?

ROFL if you look at google maps they already uploaded renderings of the restaurant on the midpoint of the pier as if it's already there.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Huntington's+-+On+The+Pier/@33.6540899,-118.0053302,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipPGFc74iFZmy9GmKsIj7eQQRlngvIKhwSrE7H-9!2e10!3e12!6shttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipPGFc74iFZmy9GmKsIj7eQQRlngvIKhwSrE7H-9=w203-h152-k-no!7i4800!8i3600!4m7!3m6!1s0x80dd217fcaec3de1:0xee27dab3266d8fdf!8m2!3d33.6540899!4d-118.0053302!10e5!16s/g/11rck2r1c0?entry=ttu

Thanks for the pics, I hadn't seen them. Ken