Friday (11/6), Sunday (11/8), Monday (11/9) at HB Pier

evanluck

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#1
Got to the pier early morning on Friday at about 6AM. Started in-shore but could not get any bites on a high low rig with Berkeley Gulp on one hook and a salt cured ghost shrimp on the other.

Moved to the north side of the pier caddy corner to the restrooms. I started fishing a sabiki to get live bait and caught about 10 smelt and 2 small mackerel. I fish both a live smelt and a small mackerel on a fish finder rig with no bites. I also walked the northside of the pier along the long section leading up to Rubies with a live smelt collar hooked on a drop shot rig. Only bite I got was a Cormorant.

I left and released all my unused bait fish.

On Sunday I arrive at around 5AM. Conditions were terrible. It was cold, with light rain and very windy. I fished a high-lo rig with salted market shrimp and a berkeley gulp on the southside of the pier leading up to Rubies. I caught one larger smelt on a sabiki. It was too big to use for bait. I walked to the end of the pier before I left to try to see if anyone caught anything. In the 2.5 hours that I stayed, I saw another small smelt that someone used for bait and what looked like a small sand bass (not sure, the fish was released before I could get a good look at it).

Monday I got there around 5:15AM and headed to the same spot (beginning off the long section leading up to Rubies). Another very slow morning. I caught two smelt, one larger and one smaller. I put the smaller fish on a reverse fish finding rig. I did reel up with the fish missing once but my rig was tangled on itself and with a bunch of mix kelp/seaweed so hard to tell if it was a bite. It was so slow that the older Vietnamese gentleman who I always see reeling up sabikis full of mackerel was walking around lamenting how there were no fish. I gave him my larger smelt. This was the first two days (Sunday and Monday) where I could not find bait fish anywhere were I dropped my line. Tried a few places including a couple spots at the end and nothing.

Maybe the rapid water temp change has something to do with it. My calendar app rated all the days I went as good-excellent days for fishing. I believe the app recommendations are based on tides and solar lunar conditions.

These conditions are encouraging me to try different spots for the winter. I think I give the Bolsa Chica inlet a few tries. I have a planned trip to the Newport Jetty with my brother in-law on this coming Saturday and I'm thinking about jumping on a party boat out of San Pedro on Sunday.
 
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Stickman

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#2
It is probably a good move to try different locales/techniques. We are all reluctant to change what has been working, but the fish tell us what works or not every time we put a line in the water. Fishing Maxim # 17: If they ain't biting, MOVE. If they still ain't biting, change your presentation.
If it was predictable, we would loose interest. But fishing is ANYTHING but predictable. Thanks for the report!
 
#3
Got to the pier early morning on Friday at about 6AM. Started in-shore but could not get any bites on a high low rig with Berkeley Gulp on one hook and a salt cured ghost shrimp on the other.

Moved to the north side of the pier caddy corner to the restrooms. I started fishing a sabiki to get live bait and caught about 10 smelt and 2 small mackerel. I fish both a live smelt and a small mackerel on a fish finder rig with no bites. I also walked the northside of the pier along the long section leading up to Rubies with a live smelt collar hooked on a drop shot rig. Only bite I got was a Cormorant.

I left and released all my unused bait fish.

On Sunday I arrive at around 5AM. Conditions were terrible. It was cold, with light rain and very windy. I fished a high-lo rig with salted market shrimp and a berkeley gulp on the southside of the pier leading up to Rubies. I caught one larger smelt on a sabiki. It was too big to use for bait. I walked to pier before I left to try to see if anyone caught anything. In the 2.5 hours that I stayed, I saw another small smelt that someone used for bait and what looked like a small sand bass (not sure, the fish was released before I could get a good look at it).

Monday I got there around 5:15AM and headed to the same spot (beginning off the long section leading up to Rubies). Another very slow morning. I caught two smelt, one larger and one smaller. I put the smaller fish on a reverse fish finding rig. I did reel up with the fish missing. But my rig was tangled on itself and with a bunch of mix kelp/seaweed. It was so slow that the older Vietnamese gentleman who I always see reeling up sabikis full of mackerel was walking around lamenting how there were no fish. I gave him my larger smelt. This was the first two days (Sunday and Monday) where I could not find bait fish anywhere were I dropped my line. Tried a few places including a couple spots at the end and nothing.

Maybe the rapid water temp change has something to do with it. My calendar app rated all the days I went as good-excellent days for fishing. I believe the app recommendations are based on tides and solar lunar conditions.

These conditions are encouraging to try different spots for the winter. I think I give the Bolsa Chica inlet a few tries. I have a planned trip to the Newport Jetty with my brother in-law on this coming Saturday and I'm thinking about jumping on a party boat out of San Pedro on Sunday.
Thanks for the report - it's just as important to know when fishing is slow compared to when fishing is great - I commend you for braving those winds on Sunday!
 

evanluck

Well-known member
#4
It is probably a good move to try different locales/techniques. We are all reluctant to change what has been working, but the fish tell us what works or not every time we put a line in the water. Fishing Maxim # 17: If they ain't biting, MOVE. If they still ain't biting, change your presentation.
If it was predictable, we would loose interest. But fishing is ANYTHING but predictable. Thanks for the report!
Thanks for the encouragement and advice!