Filthy Poachers

#1
What is the deal with pluggers using more than two rods on a public pier? I come across this quite frequently at many piers from Ferry Point, Paradise, Fort Baker, Fort Mason, Muni, and most recently, Torpedo Wharf. It's sad that I saw another fish poached here recently on a third rod. Do these fishermen know that what they are doing is ILLEGAL? Is fish and game ever going to do a pole count and confiscate fish and gear? I'm so tired of this type of poaching. If you know old man Simon from Paradise, I find it ironic that the guy likes to brag about the fish he has caught in broken English while using 3 rods. I have even witnessed his son/nephew/relative/however they are related, Eddy, poach a fish at Paradise on a third rod using a lure. Those "park rangers" at Paradise are completely useless, by the way. Don't waste your time with tip411 either because your tips will fall on deaf ears. So, yeah, spread the word and use 10 rods on a public pier because, apparently, it DOES NOT MATTER. I don't know who I hate more. The filthy poachers or the useless DFW.
 
#2
I was at Pacifica Pier two days after Dungy season ended. I saw a young couple pulling up big dungies and putting them in their bucket. I walked over and mentioned the season was over and politely let them know they could be getting big fines for taking them if the warden shows up at the neck of the pier and checks catches. They said thank you to me... and just kept filling their bucket with Dungies. I was trying to do them a favor, not be the fish police, but it just goes to show the direction this country is going in. Anarchy and lawlessness. Who is running this state? Well... enough said.
 

Red Fish

Active member
#3
What is the deal with pluggers using more than two rods on a public pier? I come across this quite frequently at many piers from Ferry Point, Paradise, Fort Baker, Fort Mason, Muni, and most recently, Torpedo Wharf. It's sad that I saw another fish poached here recently on a third rod. Do these fishermen know that what they are doing is ILLEGAL? Is fish and game ever going to do a pole count and confiscate fish and gear? I'm so tired of this type of poaching. If you know old man Simon from Paradise, I find it ironic that the guy likes to brag about the fish he has caught in broken English while using 3 rods. I have even witnessed his son/nephew/relative/however they are related, Eddy, poach a fish at Paradise on a third rod using a lure. Those "park rangers" at Paradise are completely useless, by the way. Don't waste your time with tip411 either because your tips will fall on deaf ears. So, yeah, spread the word and use 10 rods on a public pier because, apparently, it DOES NOT MATTER. I don't know who I hate more. The filthy poachers or the useless DFW.
Paul Pierce, this is where the rubber meets the road. Without being political, or saying redistribute or reissue funds for DF&W...
Do what you can to make the situation better.
It never hurts to try—that’s my belief. Do it in your own way—just like you voiced your concerns here.
It depends on where you are—say, you live in Marin County—and fish Paradise often. Well, I’ve fished there even (20) years ago. I was there when Maggie used to be a ranger. It was one winter and I came up and a Russian couple had a full bucket of dungeness crabs 🦀. I told them they were dungeness and they were something like: “huh, we don’t know what they are?” and pretended like they couldn’t speak English. I walked off the pier to her ranger’s booth and she came down and looked at them then went back to her ranger’s booth and looked them up in the Internet and told me, “I’m not sure?!” When I went back to the pier, the couple quickly and conveniently left the pier with their bucket of crabs 🦀. Can’t say I saw them crabbing for dungeness there ever again. So, my point is... something can be done.
One thing Happy Wanderer mentioned: ‘..if you want to fish there again.’ You have to do what feels right in your heart for the person you are.’ Now, Paradise, ‘you know where you are, as StripeDoc loosely put it when I was there the other week. Yeah, Tiburon, but if you look at the place now, very few people from Tiburon fish there anymore.
I can look 👀 at a person, how they fish, how they act, how they treat the pier and have a generally accurate idea of who they are, what they are about, and perhaps even where they are from, and how to approach them.
So, if that is your ‘hood Paul, you could perhaps promote the etiquette that is appropriate (and legal) for that venue.
True, you can’t change everyone, but by letting others know that there are rules they might be conscientious of them, and if not, at least you know what you’re dealing with.
Many times at piers where there are others you know, you can promote rules as a group which helps sometimes.
Although you can’t catch everything, you can at least make sure that people don’t leave with short gamefish in example or express to the person with the extra rod that “you need a space to fish.”
 
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#4
I have NEVER seen a game warden at Fort Point Pier in SF. So many violations everywhere, every day. However, I have seen the game warden many times at Eckley Pier and even driving along the remote roads adjacent to the railroad tracks in Crockett for instance. So how does this make sense? It would be so easy and efficient for them to walk out onto the Fort Point Pier or Pacifica for that matter. Someone is in charge of delegating time and resources for game wardens.
 

Red Fish

Active member
#5
I have NEVER seen a game warden at Fort Point Pier in SF. So many violations everywhere, every day. However, I have seen the game warden many times at Eckley Pier and even driving along the remote roads adjacent to the railroad tracks in Crockett for instance. So how does this make sense? It would be so easy and efficient for them to walk out onto the Fort Point Pier or Pacifica for that matter. Someone is in charge of delegating time and resources for game wardens.
The individual wardens have a specific area that they cover. In example, Big Jake covers from Berkeley to Antioch. I have seen him at Eckley, Ferry Point, Point Molate, Port Costa, and Martinez.
 
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#7
It’s really unfortunate because I know that most of these guys know what they are doing is wrong in using more than two rods on a pier. They’re just doing so because there are no consequences or repercussions to their actions. It’s even more pathetic when I know for a fact that some of these guys are users here in this forum. Many who are lurkers just waiting for a report and contributing absolutely nothing in return to the community. I will continue to report these filthy poachers to DFW and hope that they actually show up and enforce the rules for once.
 
#9
Does he know that 3 rods is illegal? have you ever call him poacher? when you talk to him say it, "Ay bro! How many fish you poach today?" "Ooh nice fish bro! which rod you catch him on? one two or three?" I hate poachers i dont care where they are from.. and you need to put them in their place. report him to cal-tip over and over you know his real name and where he local, put it in the report bust him.