Ashes at the Pier?

Ken Jones

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Staff member
#1
Date: November 4, 2005
To” PFIC Message Board
From: Snookie

Subject: Balboa Pier Thursday

Alas, I wasn't given the opportunity of adding another keeper to my list today. I did get four undersized halibut some of which were very nice. It was a perfect day. No one else got a keeper either. A friend got two keepers the day before. He is a good fisherman. One was 22 and the other 24 inches. Also fishes in the same spots that I like. There was LOTS of bait yesterday most of which was smelt. The sardines were there in good quantity also. The most unusual catch was by my other brother who brought up a closed bag. They had to use the grappling hook to bring it up although it wasn't large. It was just heavy. It was filled with what we thought was dirty sand. After looking at the top of the bag we discovered a name in large print. (Bernadine Yolanda Cavallo) The bag had a gold colored metal tag with numbers on it about 2.5 inches by 1.5 inches. Guess what that sand probably is. Yes, ASHES of Yolanda. What they were doing so close to the surf we don't know. Well, so much for that day. Snookie

Posted by Ken Jones

I never caught one of those.

Posted by SanClementeEric

Oh Man!

Posted by stripesidechaser

I'd prefer a halibut, thanks!

Posted by eelmaster

Two years ago or maybe it was three, I was at Doran park on my birthday (I generally go to the beach to reflect and be alone for a few hours on that day). I was sitting down on one of the dunes, watching a group of people with an urn(sp) dumping ashes into the surf. That's the way to be disposed of, I thought to my self. As they sat and watched the waves take the remains of their loved one away, they were suddenly interrupted. A man lets his dog off it's leash and the canine runs straight for the group of people standing at the surfs edge, only to slide directly into the small pile of ashes that had just been dumped there. SAFE! I thought to myself only to feel just a little bad for finding the incident extremely comical. The dog wagged it's tail, said hello in the universal language of golden retriever and ran off to tell his master of his new friends.
Monte, Support the UPSAC

Posted by SanClementeEric

That's as good as that scene in The Big Lebowski

Posted by baitfish

Was it Catch and Decease?

Posted by Ken Jones

That's bad!

Posted by dompfa ben

No, Irma...you were supposed to OPEN the bag...

Posted by wang

Dump the ashes and keep the gold tag after sifting for jewelry! J/K

Posted by SanClementeEric

(oh! man that was bad!)

Posted by pierhead

Snookie — Could this possibly be a case of mortuary dumping? Doesn't sound like the standard burial at sea.
Boyd

Posted by dompfa ben

That's along the lines of what I was thinking Boyd. There is a registration process (official paperwork) involved in establishing the "final resting place" of cremains. I would think a call to the authorities might be in order, if for no other reason than to return the cremains to the family.
Less drama...more DOMPFA!

Posted by kaleo

Um, could be that her family might have been unable to swing a scattering at sea and dropped her off the end of the pier instead (kind of unclear on the concept of scattering, though). Or maybe somebody stole or otherwise acquired an urn that turned out to be “occupied," and dropped her off the end of the pier. If it was a case of a financially challenged family dropping her off the pier, I'd hate to see the authorities called ‘cuz that could mean a fine for them. If it was something less innocent, I don't think that I would want to know that my loved one's remains ended up as a bag of soggy ashes on the end of a pier rat's hook. Kind of strikes home. In a few weeks I'll be flying back to O`ahu to scatter my dad's ashes at sea (we really will scatter them, especially after having read this!).

Update — The joking aside, this was a somewhat ironic thread given that we scattered (Illcatchanything) Brian Linebarger’s ashes in 2018 and (pierhead) Boyd Grant’s ashes from the Goleta Pier in 2019. Technically ashes should be scattered at least 1,500 feet out in the ocean, which means that only a few piers qualify for that honor. In Boyd's case, not only did we scatter his ashes but a bench with his name was placed on the pier near the former Angling Center that he had so grandly overseen.
 

Red Fish

Well-known member
#2
Date: November 4, 2005
To” PFIC Message Board
From: Snookie

Subject: Balboa Pier Thursday

Alas, I wasn't given the opportunity of adding another keeper to my list today. I did get four undersized halibut some of which were very nice. It was a perfect day. No one else got a keeper either. A friend got two keepers the day before. He is a good fisherman. One was 22 and the other 24 inches. Also fishes in the same spots that I like. There was LOTS of bait yesterday most of which was smelt. The sardines were there in good quantity also. The most unusual catch was by my other brother who brought up a closed bag. They had to use the grappling hook to bring it up although it wasn't large. It was just heavy. It was filled with what we thought was dirty sand. After looking at the top of the bag we discovered a name in large print. (Bernadine Yolanda Cavallo) The bag had a gold colored metal tag with numbers on it about 2.5 inches by 1.5 inches. Guess what that sand probably is. Yes, ASHES of Yolanda. What they were doing so close to the surf we don't know. Well, so much for that day. Snookie

Posted by Ken Jones

I never caught one of those.

Posted by SanClementeEric

Oh Man!

Posted by stripesidechaser

I'd prefer a halibut, thanks!

Posted by eelmaster

Two years ago or maybe it was three, I was at Doran park on my birthday (I generally go to the beach to reflect and be alone for a few hours on that day). I was sitting down on one of the dunes, watching a group of people with an urn(sp) dumping ashes into the surf. That's the way to be disposed of, I thought to my self. As they sat and watched the waves take the remains of their loved one away, they were suddenly interrupted. A man lets his dog off it's leash and the canine runs straight for the group of people standing at the surfs edge, only to slide directly into the small pile of ashes that had just been dumped there. SAFE! I thought to myself only to feel just a little bad for finding the incident extremely comical. The dog wagged it's tail, said hello in the universal language of golden retriever and ran off to tell his master of his new friends.
Monte, Support the UPSAC

Posted by SanClementeEric

That's as good as that scene in The Big Lebowski

Posted by baitfish

Was it Catch and Decease?

Posted by Ken Jones

That's bad!

Posted by dompfa ben

No, Irma...you were supposed to OPEN the bag...

Posted by wang

Dump the ashes and keep the gold tag after sifting for jewelry! J/K

Posted by SanClementeEric

(oh! man that was bad!)

Posted by pierhead

Snookie — Could this possibly be a case of mortuary dumping? Doesn't sound like the standard burial at sea.
Boyd

Posted by dompfa ben

That's along the lines of what I was thinking Boyd. There is a registration process (official paperwork) involved in establishing the "final resting place" of cremains. I would think a call to the authorities might be in order, if for no other reason than to return the cremains to the family.
Less drama...more DOMPFA!

Posted by kaleo

Um, could be that her family might have been unable to swing a scattering at sea and dropped her off the end of the pier instead (kind of unclear on the concept of scattering, though). Or maybe somebody stole or otherwise acquired an urn that turned out to be “occupied," and dropped her off the end of the pier. If it was a case of a financially challenged family dropping her off the pier, I'd hate to see the authorities called ‘cuz that could mean a fine for them. If it was something less innocent, I don't think that I would want to know that my loved one's remains ended up as a bag of soggy ashes on the end of a pier rat's hook. Kind of strikes home. In a few weeks I'll be flying back to O`ahu to scatter my dad's ashes at sea (we really will scatter them, especially after having read this!).

Update — The joking aside, this was a somewhat ironic thread given that we scattered (Illcatchanything) Brian Linebarger’s ashes in 2018 and (pierhead) Boyd Grant’s ashes from the Goleta Pier in 2019. Technically ashes should be scattered at least 1,500 feet out in the ocean, which means that only a few piers qualify for that honor. In Boyd's case, not only did we scatter his ashes but a bench with his name was placed on the pier near the former Angling Center that he had so grandly overseen.
Ken, I think 🤔 of the two PFICERs that commented in that thread that are now deceased.