Sardines — Poisonous domoic acid alert
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So probably not a good idea to eat anything that eats them also. Just about all the fish are sick and poisoned for sure.
It’s all the poisons and pollution from the land flowing into the ocean, not just the demoic acid. I wonder how many EVs in the Palisades burned up toxic lithium right down the cliffs into the ocean…
It’s all the poisons and pollution from the land flowing into the ocean, not just the demoic acid. I wonder how many EVs in the Palisades burned up toxic lithium right down the cliffs into the ocean…
Nah. Lithium in the ocean wont poison any fish at that dilution rate. Maybe make them a little less depressed once it binds with
freefloating chlorates or nitrates though. At least the lithium that made it to the ocean in runoff and didn't just become atmospheric
pollutants. Lets see if the depression rates downwind of the fire zones drop in the near future?
Not trying to diminish your comment though. To be sure toxic runoff is a MAJOR issue. I just watched a new Veritasium about PFAS
and it succeeded in getting me to start thinking a bit more about these kind of things. Not making any knee-jerk conclusions mind you, but
spending some mental processor time just thinking about things. I'm sure that there were tons of toxic chemicals in those homes that
the residue is going to become a pollution issue down the road. Just thinking about some of the things used in the construction process
washing into the sea in bulk because they are not bound up in peoples homes anymore is kind of terrifying.
** Later edit **
So, PFAs are very frequently used in firefighting chemicals... So the rains may have washed massive amounts of them into the ocean. Firefighting
foam, lots of fire retardants, and treatments that slow or prevent fire use them. Thinking of sending ocean water from my favorite fishing area
in for testing now...
freefloating chlorates or nitrates though. At least the lithium that made it to the ocean in runoff and didn't just become atmospheric
pollutants. Lets see if the depression rates downwind of the fire zones drop in the near future?
Not trying to diminish your comment though. To be sure toxic runoff is a MAJOR issue. I just watched a new Veritasium about PFAS
and it succeeded in getting me to start thinking a bit more about these kind of things. Not making any knee-jerk conclusions mind you, but
spending some mental processor time just thinking about things. I'm sure that there were tons of toxic chemicals in those homes that
the residue is going to become a pollution issue down the road. Just thinking about some of the things used in the construction process
washing into the sea in bulk because they are not bound up in peoples homes anymore is kind of terrifying.
** Later edit **
So, PFAs are very frequently used in firefighting chemicals... So the rains may have washed massive amounts of them into the ocean. Firefighting
foam, lots of fire retardants, and treatments that slow or prevent fire use them. Thinking of sending ocean water from my favorite fishing area
in for testing now...
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Adding to this, (Hi, I'm alive!) I'm sure all the runoff from the burned out hillsides would have dumped God knows how much phosphorus and nitrogen and other algal-bloom kickstarting nutrients into the water. That and the additional urban runoff I'm sure are two major factors in the domoic acid outbreak.
Nah. Lithium in the ocean wont poison any fish at that dilution rate. Maybe make them a little less depressed once it binds with
freefloating chlorates or nitrates though. At least the lithium that made it to the ocean in runoff and didn't just become atmospheric
pollutants. Lets see if the depression rates downwind of the fire zones drop in the near future?
Not trying to diminish your comment though. To be sure toxic runoff is a MAJOR issue. I just watched a new Veritasium about PFAS
and it succeeded in getting me to start thinking a bit more about these kind of things. Not making any knee-jerk conclusions mind you, but
spending some mental processor time just thinking about things. I'm sure that there were tons of toxic chemicals in those homes that
the residue is going to become a pollution issue down the road. Just thinking about some of the things used in the construction process
washing into the sea in bulk because they are not bound up in peoples homes anymore is kind of terrifying.
** Later edit **
So, PFAs are very frequently used in firefighting chemicals... So the rains may have washed massive amounts of them into the ocean. Firefighting
foam, lots of fire retardants, and treatments that slow or prevent fire use them. Thinking of sending ocean water from my favorite fishing area
in for testing now...
freefloating chlorates or nitrates though. At least the lithium that made it to the ocean in runoff and didn't just become atmospheric
pollutants. Lets see if the depression rates downwind of the fire zones drop in the near future?
Not trying to diminish your comment though. To be sure toxic runoff is a MAJOR issue. I just watched a new Veritasium about PFAS
and it succeeded in getting me to start thinking a bit more about these kind of things. Not making any knee-jerk conclusions mind you, but
spending some mental processor time just thinking about things. I'm sure that there were tons of toxic chemicals in those homes that
the residue is going to become a pollution issue down the road. Just thinking about some of the things used in the construction process
washing into the sea in bulk because they are not bound up in peoples homes anymore is kind of terrifying.
** Later edit **
So, PFAs are very frequently used in firefighting chemicals... So the rains may have washed massive amounts of them into the ocean. Firefighting
foam, lots of fire retardants, and treatments that slow or prevent fire use them. Thinking of sending ocean water from my favorite fishing area
in for testing now...