Watching all those May Day protests on TV got me thinking about a post I made during a debate on PFIC 20 about years ago.
People were discussing the acronyms used during our PFIC fishing threads and somehow the thread wandered off into a discussion on laziness and the affect of the Internet on our speech.
Posted by gyozadude
NO... it isn’t the Internet...To come to the defense of technology, let me just say that people are naturally lazy. The Internet doesn’t exacerbate this problem. It just makes it more visible, like mammograms and breast cancer. For example, I don’t usually communicate with teenagers in my daily associations. It’s either very young children still in diapers or kick-rear-end technical and product people who make the stuff that drive pretty much the entire developed world’s information infrastructure. I get my main dose of proletariat drivel on this site... not to sound condescending... but that’s just the way it is. I think it's therapeutic to some degree. It keeps me in touch with the common man or woman. I had my first Internet email account at the Univ. of British Columbia back in 5th grade in the late 70’s. It was an experimental thing for a special education course. For almost two decades, we only had a handful of shortcuts, e.g. smiley [
], winking smileys [;-)] It was only after the proliferation of portals and email to the masses that we acquired acronyms like ROFLMAO...etc. The Internet didn’t create this. It was the casual plebes injecting their idle humor because, rather than using the Internet for work, they waste their time away (like I'm doing now ). No, the Internet != laziness/shortcuts/new vocab. Rather, proles = laziness/shortcuts/new vocabulary.- Gyozadude
Posted by Ken Jones
Plebes, Proles and Karl Marx... Pier Rats Unite! I’ve always said that pier rats are the plebeians of the fishing fraternity. Fits right in that we're also the proletariat. Gee, I just hope Karl Marx doesn’t find out. He’ll have us doing all kinds of wacky things to gain equality with those fly fishermen. Pier Rats unite...
Posted by gyozadude
Would Marx approve of using a Calcutta 400? He'd probably roll over in his grave if he knew about all the wonderful, privately produced lures, rods, and reels and tackle we all favor. - Gyozadude
Posted by SD Fisherman
Nah, as long as Karl knew that...we were rebelling against the bourgeoisie or our Aristocratic “Superiors” by calling in sick to work in order to go fishing, hehe. Hey we have to come out on top somehow, eh? -Don aka SDF
Posted by SD Fisherman
I mean YEAH he would approve, hehe.
Posted by Albert Yi
Speaking of flyfishers... I'm a flyfisherman as well as a pier-rat... So what would that make me? A double agent? A bastard? Do I have the best of both worlds, or have I inherited the worst that both worlds have to offer? Hehehe... - Albert Yi
Posted by Ken Jones
Albert... Albert, you know that Lenin demanded total commitment. How can you serve two different gods? Would you rather catch one of those dinky 6-inch hatchery raised trout or a 100-pound mud marlin? Now be honest. Of course you could fish from some of the small, close to the water Bay Area piers with your fly rod. Nothing more interesting than seeing a sturgeon rise to a properly placed fly. (And I used to know a guy who actually fished for them with his fly rod and a BIG fly. Said he had taken quite a few although he was generally fishing from a boat.)
And then it moved even further away from our original discussion.
People were discussing the acronyms used during our PFIC fishing threads and somehow the thread wandered off into a discussion on laziness and the affect of the Internet on our speech.
Posted by gyozadude
NO... it isn’t the Internet...To come to the defense of technology, let me just say that people are naturally lazy. The Internet doesn’t exacerbate this problem. It just makes it more visible, like mammograms and breast cancer. For example, I don’t usually communicate with teenagers in my daily associations. It’s either very young children still in diapers or kick-rear-end technical and product people who make the stuff that drive pretty much the entire developed world’s information infrastructure. I get my main dose of proletariat drivel on this site... not to sound condescending... but that’s just the way it is. I think it's therapeutic to some degree. It keeps me in touch with the common man or woman. I had my first Internet email account at the Univ. of British Columbia back in 5th grade in the late 70’s. It was an experimental thing for a special education course. For almost two decades, we only had a handful of shortcuts, e.g. smiley [
], winking smileys [;-)] It was only after the proliferation of portals and email to the masses that we acquired acronyms like ROFLMAO...etc. The Internet didn’t create this. It was the casual plebes injecting their idle humor because, rather than using the Internet for work, they waste their time away (like I'm doing now ). No, the Internet != laziness/shortcuts/new vocab. Rather, proles = laziness/shortcuts/new vocabulary.- GyozadudePosted by Ken Jones
Plebes, Proles and Karl Marx... Pier Rats Unite! I’ve always said that pier rats are the plebeians of the fishing fraternity. Fits right in that we're also the proletariat. Gee, I just hope Karl Marx doesn’t find out. He’ll have us doing all kinds of wacky things to gain equality with those fly fishermen. Pier Rats unite...
Posted by gyozadude
Would Marx approve of using a Calcutta 400? He'd probably roll over in his grave if he knew about all the wonderful, privately produced lures, rods, and reels and tackle we all favor. - Gyozadude
Posted by SD Fisherman
Nah, as long as Karl knew that...we were rebelling against the bourgeoisie or our Aristocratic “Superiors” by calling in sick to work in order to go fishing, hehe. Hey we have to come out on top somehow, eh? -Don aka SDF
Posted by SD Fisherman
I mean YEAH he would approve, hehe.
Posted by Albert Yi
Speaking of flyfishers... I'm a flyfisherman as well as a pier-rat... So what would that make me? A double agent? A bastard? Do I have the best of both worlds, or have I inherited the worst that both worlds have to offer? Hehehe... - Albert Yi
Posted by Ken Jones
Albert... Albert, you know that Lenin demanded total commitment. How can you serve two different gods? Would you rather catch one of those dinky 6-inch hatchery raised trout or a 100-pound mud marlin? Now be honest. Of course you could fish from some of the small, close to the water Bay Area piers with your fly rod. Nothing more interesting than seeing a sturgeon rise to a properly placed fly. (And I used to know a guy who actually fished for them with his fly rod and a BIG fly. Said he had taken quite a few although he was generally fishing from a boat.)
And then it moved even further away from our original discussion.