ID of Fish

Fishman Fishman

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#1
Good Morning,

I was given these two small fish, to use for bait, while at Seal Beach pier. Does anyone know what type of fish these are?

They were about 3 inches long.

Thank you.
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Ken Jones

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Staff member
#2
At first glance I thought Threadfin Shad or Deepbody Thread Herring due to body shape and the large spot but both have a long, elongated soft-ray that extends far out from the back of the dorsal fin; it doesn't appear in these pictures. It might be a Flatiron Herring. I will see what I can find out.
 

Fishman Fishman

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#3
At first glance I thought Threadfin Shad or Deepbody Thread Herring due to body shape and the large spot but both have a long, elongated soft-ray that extends far out from the back of the dorsal fin; it doesn't appear in these pictures. It might be a Flatiron Herring. I will see what I can find out.
While I was walking on the pier. I some some small bait fish on the pier. My first thought, they were the preserved baits that come in a bag commonly found at Walmart. So I continued on without further thought. Then later, a local fisherman brought these two specimens to me. Maybe related to bait I passed earlier?
 

Ken Jones

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Staff member
#5
I received a note from Milton Love that said the following, "think it is a thread herring, genus Opisthonema. There are two species that they could be - Opisthonema libertate, the deepbody thread herring, or the middling thread herring, Opisthonema medirastre. Both have been taken, on occasion, in southern California, but are much more abundant off Mexico and down further into the tropics. One reason for the tentative id is that threadfins, as the name implies, have a long extension that starts at the rear of the dorsal fin and runs back. While I don't see that thread I suspect it has collapsed down and is stuck on the back."

He also asked if you might still have the fish? He often likes to collect these unusual fish when they show up in local watersl
 

Fishman Fishman

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#6
I received a note from Milton Love that said the following, "think it is a thread herring, genus Opisthonema. There are two species that they could be - Opisthonema libertate, the deepbody thread herring, or the middling thread herring, Opisthonema medirastre. Both have been taken, on occasion, in southern California, but are much more abundant off Mexico and down further into the tropics. One reason for the tentative id is that threadfins, as the name implies, have a long extension that starts at the rear of the dorsal fin and runs back. While I don't see that thread I suspect it has collapsed down and is stuck on the back."

He also asked if you might still have the fish? He often likes to collect these unusual fish when they show up in local watersl
Ken and Milton:

Thank you for the research and information! Very interesting.