Date: February 19, 2004
To: PFIC Message Board
From: Ken Jones
Subject: Which of our local species would be the favorites of the following people—and why?
Socrates—
Posted by dompfa ben
“Olive” rockfish? Greeks love them olives, right?
Posted by gyozadude
Tilapia or else catch-n-release guy. Wasn’t Socrates an proponent of “Diet” who’s origins mean “Way of Life?” in reference to living by means of a peaceful agrarian society? And the logic follows that raising animals requires more pastures and therefore we’d need to go to war if we ate meat? Maybe tilapia would satisfy Socrates under these conditions?
Posted by Ken Jones
Wolf-eel... If fish could talk, I think this is a species that would make you listen. Long-lived and loyal throughout their life.
Posted by Songslinger
Anything poke polled because it involves an approach akin to the Socratic Method.
Alexander the Great—
Posted by dompfa ben
“conquer” eel? Ow!
Posted by blahblahblah
MRE: Salmon, Tuna, Sardines, Herring...
Posted by gyozadude
An army fights on its stomach! Meals Ready to Eat with smoked or poached Salmon, Tuna, Sardines, Herring, and maybe even salted anchovies! But not cans. Too heavy to carry and requires a tool not available to his troops. Sardines in Jerk Sauce probably his favorite!
Posted by climberb9
That’s a dang nice MRE compared to now
Posted by Ken Jones
Lingcod...No territory is safe when they are around
Posted by 2d
Mitten Crab...it’s all about terrorizing and taking over.
Confucius—
Posted by Ken Jones
Sturgeon...they live a long, long life and a lot of time is needed to understand life...
Posted by kin
A big old Cabezon
Posted by gyozadude
Yes, cabezon. A big mouth and head — representing great intellect and a philosopher much spoken of. Not to mention, great for soup. White flaky flesh unparalleled in a stir fry with snow peas. Skin and bones deep-fried as an appetizer. A big cabezon in the sack is worth three dishes on the dinner table.
Posted by saltynsoaked
China Rock fish...he’s a patriot
Posted by Ken Jones
Black croaker aka Chinese croaker
Posted by Ken Jones
Or monkeyface eel (prickleback)...They’re sitting down there under and in between those rocks contemplating the state of our society.
Posted by Songslinger
Oddly, jacksmelt because the style (or styles) of fishing for them would please Master Kung. And he would keep only the ones he needed.
John Locke—
Posted by gyozadude
Sturgeon... For being a beast that is still looked upon as common, and no man’s private possession, whoever has employed so much labour about any of that kind as to find and pursue her has thereby removed her from the state of Nature wherein she was common, and hath begun a property. - John Locke, 1690 2nd Treatise of Gov’t
Posted by Ken Jones
White seabass...A leader among his fellow croakers as was Locke among other mere mortal men. “Give me liberty or give me death,” oops wrong continent and person (Patrick Henry) but you get the drift.
Posted by Songslinger
For his An Essay Concerning Human Understanding, a buffalo sculpin, sluggish and ponderous, not much fight and a rather grudging acceptance of things as they are.
Thomas Jefferson—
Posted by gyozadude
Giant (Black) Sea Bass... Jefferson had many secret likings for things black... He loved to hunt and fish, but it was mostly fresh water trout species. If he ever actual got to fish off of Southern California, black sea bass would have been his favorite. And such a large fish would have been easily divided in portions to accompany bread and fish rations to his numerous slaves.
Posted by Ken Jones
Red Irish lord...Obvious red coloring but I also think (could be wrong) that Mr. Jefferson traced his roots to Ireland. An independent thinking fish that is desired for its flesh—but not its wisdom.
Winston Churchill—
Posted by saltynsoaked
Salmon, smoked of course.... smoke a cigar or smoke a salmon... hmmm. Jonathan "Saltynsoaked"
Posted by gyozadude
Halibut, no doubt the utmost fish! Bigger fillets than the measly morsels from the standard fillets of sole off UK coasts, halibut would easily satisfy Churchill’s demand to resolve possible shortages through a policy of “utmost fish”
Posted by Ken Jones
Senorita...Since they are cigar-shaped.
Posted by Ken Jones
Or English sole (soul). Just like the name
Napoleon—
Posted by cayucosjack
Sarcastic Frenchead
Posted by blahblahblah
Ow again — but right...garibaldi...small fish taking on a seal.
Posted by kin
kingfish... only this will do!!!
Posted by saltynsoaked
California Scorpionfish
Posted by gyozadude
Sarcastic fringehead
Posted by Ken Jones
Ditto...Small fish with a big attitude.
Posted by climberb9
Scorpionfish, they can be pretty temperamental.
Posted by pierhead
Cephaloscyllium ventriosum...
Einstein—
Posted by dompfa ben
“Alper” Einstein? — [Alper is a type of trout}
Posted by gyozadude
A Greenling
Posted by Ken Jones
Pileperch...It’s hard to out smart them. How many times do you see them circling the pilings in plain view and find them impossible to hook?
Woody Guthrie—
Posted by dompfa ben
“ballad” tuna? ... all right, that's a stretch on bullet tuna, but... I couldn't think of a Dust Bowl reference.
Posted by Ken Jones
White croaker aka kingfish, champion of the common man, oops, I mean common fish.
Bob Dylan—
Posted by dompfa ben
guitarfish? How many hi-lo’s must a man cast down before you can call him a man?
Yes, and how many sand crabs must die in the sun, before a guitarfish lay in the sand?
Posted by climberb9
LMAO, The answer my friend is drifting in the tide
The answer is drifting in the tide.
-Hara
If no one can find me, I can’t be found
But if a fish can find me, you know I am around
Around the pilings or the jetty
Around the ocean and the sand
You know where I will be found
Posted by Ken Jones
Chamelon goby... He’s changed from folk singer to folk rock singer to gospel singer to blues singer to guru for many different types of music. And he’s a small man considering his enormous influence on our music for the past 40 years.
Posted by Ken Jones
But you don't know what it is, Do you, Mister Jones?
Ballad of a Thin Man
You walk into the room
With your pencil in your hand
You see somebody naked
And you say, "Who is that man?"
You try so hard
But you don't understand
Just what you’ll say
When you get home
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
You raise up your head
And you ask, “Is this where it is?”
And somebody points to you and says
“It’s his”
And you say, “What's mine?”
And somebody else says, “Where what is?”
And you say, “Oh my God
Am I here all alone?”
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
You hand in your ticket
And you go watch the geek
Who immediately walks up to you
When he hears you speak
And says, “How does it feel
To be such a freak?”
And you say, “Impossible”
As he hands you a bone
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
You have many contacts
Among the lumberjacks
To get you facts
When someone attacks your imagination
But nobody has any respect
Anyway they already expect you
To just give a check
To tax-deductible charity organizations
You’ve been with the professors
And they’ve all liked your looks
With great lawyers you have
Discussed lepers and crooks
You’ve been through all of
F. Scott Fitzgerald's books
You're very well read
It's well known
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Well, the sword swallower, he comes up to you
And then he kneels
He crosses himself
And then he clicks his high heels
And without further notice
He asks you how it feels
And he says, “Here is your throat back
Thanks for the loan”
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Now you see this one-eyed midget
Shouting the word “NOW”
And you say, “For what reason?”
And he says, “How?”
And you say, “What does this mean?”
And he screams back, “You're a cow
Give me some milk
Or else go home”
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Well, you walk into the room
Like a camel and then you frown
You put your eyes in your pocket
And your nose on the ground
There ought to be a law
Against you comin’ around
You should be made
To wear earphones
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Copyright © 1965; renewed 1993 Special Rider Music
Posted by Black Diamond Bay
Tangled Up In Blue Rockfish...Actually, the way my luck's going, tangled up in blue p-line!
Elvis—
Posted by dompfa ben
Smooth hound dog? you ain't nothin’ but a smooth hound...
rockin' me all the time...
Posted by gyozadude
smooth hound — dog fish? Two species better than one!
Posted by Ken Jones
Longspine combfish...But I’m stretching the species for this one (most anglers would never see this fish
Posted by Songslinger
Kingfish
Posted by Red Fish
Jailhouse rockfish!
Posted by dompfa ben
Irish Lord of the Rings? or a maybe a hobbit crab...or anything precious...
Posted by saltynsoaked
Garibaldi — so precious we can’t fish them in our waters.
Posted by neko
Opaleye
Posted by blahblahblah
“Sting” ray
Date: December 17, 2007
To: PFIC Message Board
From: Ken Jones
Subject: Which of our local species would be the favorites of the following people—and why?
Luke Skywalker or Yoda —
Posted by eelmaster
Buffalo Sculpin.
Posted by Frank Oz
Toad Fish
Posted by baitfish
Light Sablefish
Posted by drudown
Brass Copper Tetra
Darth Vader
Posted by baymaster
Surfperch. They are very mushy and he could probably suck it through a straw.
Posted by 2d
I got a ling a couple of years ago that hitchhiked on another, smaller (though of current legal size) ling. The bait was the normal greenish blue hue, but the hitchhiker was dark with red mottling. Due to the coloration and propensity to eat its own kind, I promptly dubbed it the “darth maul ling.” It might still be out there, all 35”+ of badness (probably a few inches longer if it hasn’t been caught yet).
Posted by Red Fish
I-- am--your Flouuuuuuunder..... Uhhh, ummm..... Luuuuuuuuke...... I--am-- your Fathhhhhhhher!!!!!!! Although, a bat ray does give you kind of an impression of Darth with the mask on
Posted by baitfish
Anaking fish
Posted by drudown
Whitespotted Toadfish
Jack Nickalus (actor)
dompfa ben
A Jack Crevalle? Jack Mackerel?
Posted by Red Fish
A shiner .... Shining.....
Posted by baitfish
China(town) Rockfish
To: PFIC Message Board
From: Ken Jones
Subject: Which of our local species would be the favorites of the following people—and why?
Socrates—
Posted by dompfa ben
“Olive” rockfish? Greeks love them olives, right?
Posted by gyozadude
Tilapia or else catch-n-release guy. Wasn’t Socrates an proponent of “Diet” who’s origins mean “Way of Life?” in reference to living by means of a peaceful agrarian society? And the logic follows that raising animals requires more pastures and therefore we’d need to go to war if we ate meat? Maybe tilapia would satisfy Socrates under these conditions?
Posted by Ken Jones
Wolf-eel... If fish could talk, I think this is a species that would make you listen. Long-lived and loyal throughout their life.
Posted by Songslinger
Anything poke polled because it involves an approach akin to the Socratic Method.
________________________
Alexander the Great—
Posted by dompfa ben
“conquer” eel? Ow!
Posted by blahblahblah
MRE: Salmon, Tuna, Sardines, Herring...
Posted by gyozadude
An army fights on its stomach! Meals Ready to Eat with smoked or poached Salmon, Tuna, Sardines, Herring, and maybe even salted anchovies! But not cans. Too heavy to carry and requires a tool not available to his troops. Sardines in Jerk Sauce probably his favorite!
Posted by climberb9
That’s a dang nice MRE compared to now
Posted by Ken Jones
Lingcod...No territory is safe when they are around
Posted by 2d
Mitten Crab...it’s all about terrorizing and taking over.
________________________
Confucius—
Posted by Ken Jones
Sturgeon...they live a long, long life and a lot of time is needed to understand life...
Posted by kin
A big old Cabezon
Posted by gyozadude
Yes, cabezon. A big mouth and head — representing great intellect and a philosopher much spoken of. Not to mention, great for soup. White flaky flesh unparalleled in a stir fry with snow peas. Skin and bones deep-fried as an appetizer. A big cabezon in the sack is worth three dishes on the dinner table.
Posted by saltynsoaked
China Rock fish...he’s a patriot
Posted by Ken Jones
Black croaker aka Chinese croaker
Posted by Ken Jones
Or monkeyface eel (prickleback)...They’re sitting down there under and in between those rocks contemplating the state of our society.
Posted by Songslinger
Oddly, jacksmelt because the style (or styles) of fishing for them would please Master Kung. And he would keep only the ones he needed.
________________________
John Locke—
Posted by gyozadude
Sturgeon... For being a beast that is still looked upon as common, and no man’s private possession, whoever has employed so much labour about any of that kind as to find and pursue her has thereby removed her from the state of Nature wherein she was common, and hath begun a property. - John Locke, 1690 2nd Treatise of Gov’t
Posted by Ken Jones
White seabass...A leader among his fellow croakers as was Locke among other mere mortal men. “Give me liberty or give me death,” oops wrong continent and person (Patrick Henry) but you get the drift.
Posted by Songslinger
For his An Essay Concerning Human Understanding, a buffalo sculpin, sluggish and ponderous, not much fight and a rather grudging acceptance of things as they are.
________________________
Thomas Jefferson—
Posted by gyozadude
Giant (Black) Sea Bass... Jefferson had many secret likings for things black... He loved to hunt and fish, but it was mostly fresh water trout species. If he ever actual got to fish off of Southern California, black sea bass would have been his favorite. And such a large fish would have been easily divided in portions to accompany bread and fish rations to his numerous slaves.
Posted by Ken Jones
Red Irish lord...Obvious red coloring but I also think (could be wrong) that Mr. Jefferson traced his roots to Ireland. An independent thinking fish that is desired for its flesh—but not its wisdom.
________________________
Winston Churchill—
Posted by saltynsoaked
Salmon, smoked of course.... smoke a cigar or smoke a salmon... hmmm. Jonathan "Saltynsoaked"
Posted by gyozadude
Halibut, no doubt the utmost fish! Bigger fillets than the measly morsels from the standard fillets of sole off UK coasts, halibut would easily satisfy Churchill’s demand to resolve possible shortages through a policy of “utmost fish”
Posted by Ken Jones
Senorita...Since they are cigar-shaped.
Posted by Ken Jones
Or English sole (soul). Just like the name
________________________
Napoleon—
Posted by cayucosjack
Sarcastic Frenchead
Posted by blahblahblah
Ow again — but right...garibaldi...small fish taking on a seal.
Posted by kin
kingfish... only this will do!!!
Posted by saltynsoaked
California Scorpionfish
Posted by gyozadude
Sarcastic fringehead
Posted by Ken Jones
Ditto...Small fish with a big attitude.
Posted by climberb9
Scorpionfish, they can be pretty temperamental.
Posted by pierhead
Cephaloscyllium ventriosum...
________________________
Einstein—
Posted by dompfa ben
“Alper” Einstein? — [Alper is a type of trout}
Posted by gyozadude
A Greenling
Posted by Ken Jones
Pileperch...It’s hard to out smart them. How many times do you see them circling the pilings in plain view and find them impossible to hook?
________________________
Woody Guthrie—
Posted by dompfa ben
“ballad” tuna? ... all right, that's a stretch on bullet tuna, but... I couldn't think of a Dust Bowl reference.
Posted by Ken Jones
White croaker aka kingfish, champion of the common man, oops, I mean common fish.
________________________
Bob Dylan—
Posted by dompfa ben
guitarfish? How many hi-lo’s must a man cast down before you can call him a man?
Yes, and how many sand crabs must die in the sun, before a guitarfish lay in the sand?
Posted by climberb9
LMAO, The answer my friend is drifting in the tide
The answer is drifting in the tide.
-Hara
If no one can find me, I can’t be found
But if a fish can find me, you know I am around
Around the pilings or the jetty
Around the ocean and the sand
You know where I will be found
Posted by Ken Jones
Chamelon goby... He’s changed from folk singer to folk rock singer to gospel singer to blues singer to guru for many different types of music. And he’s a small man considering his enormous influence on our music for the past 40 years.
Posted by Ken Jones
But you don't know what it is, Do you, Mister Jones?
Ballad of a Thin Man
You walk into the room
With your pencil in your hand
You see somebody naked
And you say, "Who is that man?"
You try so hard
But you don't understand
Just what you’ll say
When you get home
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
You raise up your head
And you ask, “Is this where it is?”
And somebody points to you and says
“It’s his”
And you say, “What's mine?”
And somebody else says, “Where what is?”
And you say, “Oh my God
Am I here all alone?”
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
You hand in your ticket
And you go watch the geek
Who immediately walks up to you
When he hears you speak
And says, “How does it feel
To be such a freak?”
And you say, “Impossible”
As he hands you a bone
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
You have many contacts
Among the lumberjacks
To get you facts
When someone attacks your imagination
But nobody has any respect
Anyway they already expect you
To just give a check
To tax-deductible charity organizations
You’ve been with the professors
And they’ve all liked your looks
With great lawyers you have
Discussed lepers and crooks
You’ve been through all of
F. Scott Fitzgerald's books
You're very well read
It's well known
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Well, the sword swallower, he comes up to you
And then he kneels
He crosses himself
And then he clicks his high heels
And without further notice
He asks you how it feels
And he says, “Here is your throat back
Thanks for the loan”
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Now you see this one-eyed midget
Shouting the word “NOW”
And you say, “For what reason?”
And he says, “How?”
And you say, “What does this mean?”
And he screams back, “You're a cow
Give me some milk
Or else go home”
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Well, you walk into the room
Like a camel and then you frown
You put your eyes in your pocket
And your nose on the ground
There ought to be a law
Against you comin’ around
You should be made
To wear earphones
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
Copyright © 1965; renewed 1993 Special Rider Music
Posted by Black Diamond Bay
Tangled Up In Blue Rockfish...Actually, the way my luck's going, tangled up in blue p-line!
________________________
Elvis—
Posted by dompfa ben
Smooth hound dog? you ain't nothin’ but a smooth hound...
rockin' me all the time...
Posted by gyozadude
smooth hound — dog fish? Two species better than one!
Posted by Ken Jones
Longspine combfish...But I’m stretching the species for this one (most anglers would never see this fish
Posted by Songslinger
Kingfish
Posted by Red Fish
Jailhouse rockfish!
________________________
Frodo—Posted by dompfa ben
Irish Lord of the Rings? or a maybe a hobbit crab...or anything precious...
Posted by saltynsoaked
Garibaldi — so precious we can’t fish them in our waters.
Posted by neko
Opaleye
Posted by blahblahblah
“Sting” ray
Date: December 17, 2007
To: PFIC Message Board
From: Ken Jones
Subject: Which of our local species would be the favorites of the following people—and why?
Luke Skywalker or Yoda —
Posted by eelmaster
Buffalo Sculpin.
Posted by Frank Oz
Toad Fish
Posted by baitfish
Light Sablefish
Posted by drudown
Brass Copper Tetra
________________________
Darth Vader
Posted by baymaster
Surfperch. They are very mushy and he could probably suck it through a straw.
Posted by 2d
I got a ling a couple of years ago that hitchhiked on another, smaller (though of current legal size) ling. The bait was the normal greenish blue hue, but the hitchhiker was dark with red mottling. Due to the coloration and propensity to eat its own kind, I promptly dubbed it the “darth maul ling.” It might still be out there, all 35”+ of badness (probably a few inches longer if it hasn’t been caught yet).
Posted by Red Fish
I-- am--your Flouuuuuuunder..... Uhhh, ummm..... Luuuuuuuuke...... I--am-- your Fathhhhhhhher!!!!!!! Although, a bat ray does give you kind of an impression of Darth with the mask on
Posted by baitfish
Anaking fish
Posted by drudown
Whitespotted Toadfish
________________________
Jack Nickalus (actor)
dompfa ben
A Jack Crevalle? Jack Mackerel?
Posted by Red Fish
A shiner .... Shining.....
Posted by baitfish
China(town) Rockfish