Visitor Comments and Letters
October '98

These messages have been edited. Although I feel the content is of interest, I want to provide as much privacy as possible to the various people who have taken time to comment. Let me know if you feel this is an interesting page. KJ


Date: October 1, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Richard Brosnac
Subject: Links

My wife and myself have a web page titled anglingangles.com about fishing and family recreation. I would like permission from you to add a link from our page to yours. A link from your page to ours would be nice but not necessary. Please look up our page and tell us what you think. Our page is for someone visiting Central California, as to where to go and what to see. I would like to note that we are non profit and our fishing column is usually printed by the Sanger Herald.

Thanks, Richard A. Brosnac

Richard,

Your page looks good and I'd be happy to link up.

Best wishes, Ken Jones, the Pier Fisherman


Date: October 1, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: George H
Subject: Pier Fishing

Hi Ken.

Thanks for the prompt reply regarding my trip to California. I have not been able to fish salt water for over two years. I am anticipating So. Cal but if the difference is really great I might drive further. You know the old story, if your a true card player, you will play even if you know the game is rigged.

I have to admit my experience with Cal extends as far as the Balboa Pier. Most of my fishing was done in the San Diego area. (Had some real good luck with corbina). In N.Y. they are known as "Great Northern Kingfish" -- wonderful fighters on light tackle.

Thank you
George H -- Phoenix

Best wishes, Ken


Date: October 1, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Jeff S
Subject: Hi Ken

Hi Ken:

I just had a great time perusing your site. I've been meaning to check it out for a long time and have now made the time to read it through. I also have a California fishing site at: http://home1.gte.net/jspira/fishing/

Are you interested in a link swap? Also, I'd like to pick up a copy of your book. I think I've seen it in tackle shops, right? Know one in the Huntington Beach area where I can get it? Or would you prefer I buy it direct from you?

As you can see from the announcement on my web page, I'm a writer, too and am working on my fourth book (my first fishing book) for Wilderness Outdoor Publishers out of Montana. I'd like to use your book as a reference for my discussions on the various piers of Southern California. Mine includes pier, surf, and boat fishing but only from Point Conception to Ensenada. My pier fishing descriptions would be much more terse than your extensive treatises. Of course, I'd include acknowledgments and a recommendation for serious pier fishermen to buy your book.

You also seem to have an extensive photo collection, too. I'd love to publish some of your better photos in my book if you're interested. Of course, they would have picture credits also. What do you think?

--- Jeff Spira

Jeff,

I don't see any problem with a link swap nor in using some of the information in my book. Unfortunately I can not free up any pictures at this time. I am finishing the second edition of the book and have not finished deciding which pictures I am going to use for the book. As for my book, if you can't find it in a book store, you can order direct. It is actually cheaper through my site.

Best wishes, Ken Jones, The Pier Fisherman


Date: October 1, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Cary
Subject: Antioch Pier

Hey Ken,

I just got back from fishing at Antioch Pier; nothing but pan-sized stripers to report, and it was extremely windy. I stopped off at the Dumbarton Pier first, to catch some bay shrimp, to use in Antioch. A couple of guys pulled out a few good sized stripers (18"+). They were telling me that yesterday the action for stripers were really hot. O' yeah, I was wondering if you have heard anything else about the San Mateo's Pier? I was just wondering if it's still opening in November, or some time sooner, or just if you've heard any news at all about it. Well you take care, and talk to you later. Thanx

Cary

Hi Cary,

I haven't heard anything new about San Mateo yet but like you I hope it opens soon.

By the way, my site is changing its appearance a little and I would appreciate any feedback you could give me.

Thanks, Ken

Ken.

It looks great to me. I don't have any complaints, I love it. It's probably the only web page of its kind. At least to my knowledge. Keep up the great work.

Cary


Date: October 2, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Matt Shockney
Subject: Pacifica Pier

Hey Ken,

I just got back from the pier. Man was it windy today. there weren't too many people out there, and action seemed incredibly slow. I talked with the people in the bait shop and they said that earlier in the morning they were catching some stripers but that ended fast. I saw a guy land a striper on this unusual sliding sinker/bobber setup. Its kind of hard to explain though but I'll tell you if you want to know about it. Anyway, some other guys pulled in a cool bat ray which was promptly released and that's about it. I caught two nice what looked like a mixture of a kelp greenling and a sea trout and 7-8 HUGE Dungeness Crabs. Unfortunately, they are out of season so I threw all of them back (although some idiot was keeping some). In all, it wasn't that bad of a day since Jimmy and I kept a few nice rock crabs and had a nice day off from school at the pier. I'm going to see if I can hit Oyster Point next weekend since it's so close to where my dad works. By the way, I didn't hear about the 50 LB salmon caught. Who and when did you hear that?

Matt

Hi Matt,

Sounds like things have slowed. I heard about the 50-pound salmon from a non-fisherman and I'm beginning to believe he was wrong.

Instead of Oyster Point you might want to try Pier 7; it's been pretty good lately -- although crowded out at the end where the best action is.

Best wishes and good luck, Ken


Date: October 3, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Matt Shockney
Subject: Fort Point

Hey Ken,

Just got back from Fort Point and the movie theater. "There's something about Mary" is hilarious! After my first cast, I was sitting there and I saw some very light nibbles on my pole. I set the hook and it was whoo-ya time. After a huge fight, I landed a 50-lb bat ray. Man was it thick and wild. The runs were so strong and big. Really good fight. Besides that, lots and lots of crabbers out there. Every inch of space is filled with ropes. Some people throw their traps over your line and don't even care. To add insult to injury, they are keeping millions of crabs, even if they are tiny. Dumb. Is there a limit or size restrictions for these rock crabs?

Matt

Hi Matt,

I saw that movie and I agree with your assessment -- in fact I went and saw it twice.

As for Fort Point, good job on the big battie! As for the crabs, yes there is a size restriction although I don't remember it right off hand (since I never crab).

Glad you caught a big 'un.

Best, Ken


Date: October 4, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Felix
Subject: Cayucos, Morro, San Simeon and Pismo reports

Hey Ken,

I've been playing around the local shores out here with grubs and spending a lot of time hitting the piers on the central coast. Fished Cayucos Pier about 5 times in the past 2 weeks. Things are really slow as far as the end of the pier is going. Haven't seen too many of the locals out there lately. A lot of people including myself are catching small to medium sized perch from the foot to mid pier. The perch have been consistently getting bigger the past few weeks and are mostly taking mussels (collected from the piling under the pier at low tide) and I'm catching a few with plastic grubs.

Fished San Simeon a couple times with no luck. Didn't see anyone else catching anything either. Only fished for about an hour each time.

Stopped by Morro T pier a couple times last week for you and caught absolutely nothing once again. I only fished long enough to cover the pier and do a couple dozen casts with a grub. Talked to a few people and no one is catching anything. I don't think I'm going to waste my time there anymore. I fish around the rocks there often and I'll be happy to stop at the pier and ask some of the people fishing how things are going if you need me too .

Decided to hit Pismo Pier after a windy day in Cayucos on Saturday. The water and weather was great but all the fishing was confined to the very end of the pier because of some surfing competition. Almost caught my first surfer. Not much luck at the fish though, but did manage to get two great hits that ripped the tails off my little plastic grubs. I saw a couple starry flounder pulled in at the end, I'm not really sure what they were caught on though.

Okay that pretty much covers the last two weeks. I'll be hitting Cayucos pier this week and maybe even giving Pismo for an early morning try for perch. Let me know when your fishing this area I'll be happy to stop by and say hi.

Hi Felix,

Thanks for the report. Sounds sort of like what the tackle shop owners told me -- slow, slow, slow. Barred surfperch should start hitting as we get nearer the winter time months and both grubs and fresh mussels should work well,

Also, any word on when Avila will shut down?

Thanks again, Ken

Ken,

I'll drive up to Avila this weekend and fish the foot of the pier (as well as port San Luis pier) for perch. I'll ask around and see when the scheduled date is for shutting down the pier. I'm very positive that they will be tearing apart the foot for cleanup. I'll have more info by this weekend.

When is the message board going to happen.... I'm really jazzed about it.

Hi Felix,

Thanks for your help -- and it is up!!! Check it out at: pierfishing.com

Best wishes, Ken


Date: October 5, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Huy N
Subject: Piers

Hey Ken,

Thanks for writing back. (See September Comments Page). My buddies and I have fished at Redondo and Santa Monica Beaches. But our next fishing trip is in two weeks at Hermosa Beach. I don't know if the fish bite there or not....so do you have any recommendations on where to fish for this time of year? If not, is Hermosa Beach ideal for our fishing trip? Thanks a lot for the help, we appreciate it.

Huy N, an up and coming fisherman.

Hi Huy,

Sorry to report but bad news for Hermosa Beach -- the pier is scheduled to close for repairs on October 12. You might want to try Redondo Beach where the mackerel are running or try out the new pier at Venice. I haven't heard any recent reports from Venice but it should be good this time of the year. Apparently Huntington Beach has also been producing some good fishing lately.

By the way, let me know what you think of the new format on my site.

Best wishes, Ken

Hey Ken,

Thanks for the info. regarding Hermosa Beach. Huntington Beach looks good. I haven't tried that beach yet. I'll be sure to let you know what happens on the trip. Oh yeah...I forgot to ask you if you had any tips for actually catching a fish, e.g. what hooks to use, fishing techniques, knowing when to pull the line, reeling a fish in, what bait to use. This information is crucial to our trip so thanks for the help. By the way, your site is way better with the new format. Keep up the good work. Thanks again for the tips and the help.

Huy Nguyen, up and coming fisherman


Date: October 5, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Don Larson
Subject: Sturgeon Home Page

Hi to Everyone.

This is my first attempt at a website. It WILL get better.

http://www.worldstar.com/~dlarson/html/welcome.html

Please send constructive criticism and contributions.

I especially need you anglers to send in reports.

Thanx for your support. Especially thank you to all of you who have already contributed.

This WILL be the definitive sturgeon site on the web. Period.

Thanx and Stay in Touch, Don Larson

Don,

The page looks good and I will have it added to the Pier Fishing in California Links Page.


Date: October 5, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Keith & Jackie
Subject: New Pier

Ken,

Just found out about a new pier on Carquinez Straits between Crockett and Martinez. It is run by the East Bay Regional Parks system. It has a small park with picnic areas and barbecues. The pier is new. I haven't fished it yet, but it should be a good spot to intercept sturgeon, stripers and salmon.

The fishing at the Rod and Gun club has been busy. A lot of small stripers on up to 27", lots of smelt, and a few rays.

Still hope you can get a chance to fish with me at the Rod and Gun club.

Keith

Hi Keith,

I'm looking forward to a trip to the Marin pier. As for the other pier, yes I heard about it but I haven't been down there yet. But I do look forward to visiting it.

By the way, check out the changed look of the page and let me know what you think. You can also now find it easier at

pierfishing.com

Best wishes, Ken

Ken,

I stopped (or tried to) at the new pier. It isn't ready for use yet. You have to park at the top of the hill and walk down about 3/4 mile. The pier is fenced off and doesn't have a rail around it yet. When I first saw it, I was a distance away, and saw it while driving past on Carquinez scenic Drive.

The page looks real good. I have it bookmarked so I never have any problem finding it.

Keith

Hi Keith,

Thanks once again for the information.

Ken


Date: October 6, 1998
To: Ben Szu
From: Ken Jones
Subject: Site

Hi Ben,

If you get a chance check out the changes and let me know what you think.

Best wishes, Ken

Ken, It's been a long time. Anyway, got a chance to check out the new stuff. I like the format, but I think the text is way to small. I had a lot of trouble reading all the reports and everything else. Maybe my screen is small, but I used the same one to look at your old format and never had any trouble before. But besides the font size, it all looks good. I'm sorry I haven't been pier fishing in awhile. The only times I went this summer were a couple of night trips to Ocean beach pier and Shelter Island pier. I recently purchases a kayak and am starting to get into the kayak fishing craze. Well, good luck with the website. I'll be checking it out every month. Take care.

Ben


Date: October 6, 1998
To: Ken Jones
from: Dan A
Subject: NEW SITE!!

Your new page looks great and also is fast! I take back anything negative I may have e-mailed in the past. The past reports set up is especially nice ..since I use it for seasonal records.

Being a designer (and pier rat) myself I must applaud your site! It is simple and easy to navigate! kudos for such a well thought out site!

Keep it up!
(whoya it's lobster season!)

Dan A
Laguna Niguel


Date: October 6, 2998
To: Steve Lau
From: Ken Jones
Subject: Message Board Comments

Steve,

Would you mind if I included the following on my monthly comments page? If you don't want it on there I will leave it off but I thought it might also be of interest to my readers.

The following is from an excellent Bay Area fishing message board and used with their permission. If you have questions about joining the group just send a note to Steve Lau who runs the site and the message board: the_FishMaster@juno.com

Date: September 6, 1998
To: sf_saltwater_fishing@lists.best.com
From: Casey
Subject: Perch and flounder fishing

Hello I am new to this and would like to ask you to please send me some information on how and where to fish for perch and flounder in the San Francisco Bay area.

Thanks for your help, Chris

From: Dave P

I too would like some info on this such as where to fish, what bait is working, rigs etc....

Dave

Chris asked about perch and flounder fishing! My recommendations are to try the piers of the Bay Area.

Many of the piers are excellent for perch but the following have proved most productive for me. Fort Baker Pier -- black seaperch, white seaperch, walleye surfperch and lesser numbers of rubberlip seaperch, silver surfperch, rainbow seaperch and striped seaperch. Elephant Rock Pier (when open) -- good for black seaperch, rubberlip seaperch, walleye and silver surfperch, and a few white seaperch. Fort Point Pier -- can be very good for black seaperch, some rainbow seaperch, small striped seaperch, white seaperch and walleye/silver surfperch. Muni Pier -- at times good for almost all of these species. Other piers -- generally most piers close to the Gate are good for perch; the farther away from the Gate the less perch, although it depends on the time of the year. Generally late winter and spring is the prime time for many of these species but as the bay becomes saltier later in the year, piers farther from the Gate will produce more perch. Large pileperch are available at many piers including piers in the East Bay and in San Pablo Bay. November through March is usually the best time for these large perch. Best bait depends on the location and natural food but pile worms are almost always productive as are small ghost shrimp, tube worms (if you can find them), fresh mussels (especially at piers near the Gate), and grass shrimp (especially in San Pablo Bay). Make sure the pier you are fishing has some mussel or barnacle growth on the pilings if you're looking for perch and a good attractant is to break up some mussels or barnacles and then drop some of the pieces into the water as chum. Remember to keep the hook size small -- 8-4, and fish straight down around the pilings or under the pier.

As for flounder, their numbers are down but many piers see some of the flatfish every year, especially in the late winter to spring months. Most North Bay piers and San Pablo Bay piers will see some flounder as will Berkeley Pier and other East Bay Piers. Candlestick Point Pier used to be known for flounder but has not been as good in recent years. Best bait -- grass shrimp or cut anchovies fished on a sliding leader on the bottom.

Lastly, Pacifica Pier can be EXCELLENT at times for almost all surfperchs. It is one of the few places where you can catch the large barred, redtail and calico surfperch all from the same spot. Winter months between the storms are the best time for the large surfperch, summertime can be excellent for smaller walleye, silver and spotfin surfperch. Best bait -- strips of pile worm, pieces of anchovy, or small pieces of shrimp.

Best wishes and hope you try some piers, Ken Jones

This message is also taken from the message board mentioned above.

Date: September 11, 1998
To: sf_saltwater_fishing@lists.best.com
From: Ed
Subject: Mudsuckers

In the past couple of years finding these wonderful baitfish has been a task. Has anyone had any success catching mudsuckers around the bay or any where else? If so, where and when?

Ed,

The longjaw mudsucker or longjaw goby, take your pick of names, is naturally found from Tomales Bay to the Gulf of California. In the sixties, I fished with them often when I lived in San Diego, and they're still a favorite bait in San Diego Bay depending upon the species of fish being sought by fisherman and/or when anchovies are not available.

When I moved to the Bay Area in the '70s, I found that mudsuckers were fairly common at many piers including some in San Francisco and the South Bay as well as some in San Pablo Bay. To catch them required a small hook and typically they were in the inshore, shallow-water areas -- especially in mud-flat type environments.

In the past few years I've rarely seen them caught at a pier. However, I've seen two other fairly common goby species that are alien to the area -- yellowfin gobies and chameleon gobies. Both of these come from Asian waters and apparently were brought in by ballast from ships. I've caught several chameleon goby -- a tiny goby usually only a few inches long -- while fishing with pile worms for perch at piers in the Oakland estuary. I've also caught several yellowfin goby from piers on the San Francisco waterfront and the Oakland estuary. Although the yellowfin get up to around nine inches long and are usually too big to use for effective bait, the chameleons are almost all small and probably would make excellent bait (although I've never tried them).

I'm not sure if these exotic gobies crowded out the local longjaw mudsuckers (as Phytoplankton believes) but it sure seems a logical conclusion. There definitely seem to be fewer of the mudsuckers, at least those that are taken from piers. However, it is still possible to catch the little critters from areas like China Camp in San Pablo Bay, Point Pinole, and up towards Vallejo.

Ken Jones

Steve,

I'm also changing my site and would appreciate any feedback you could give me. You can find the mock up (it goes on-line tonight), at pierfishing.com/pierfishing/

Thanks, Ken

PS, I saw that some of your message board people recently discussed my book. I appreciated their thoughts but didn't know if it was appropriate for me to say anything about the book. I would be willing to give your people a discount but again did not know if you would want that. If you think it's a good idea I will send a message offering to knock a couple of bucks off the book. But, I will not do so if you are against it.

Continued best wishes and good fishing,

Ken

Hi Ken,

I don't mind if you use any of the material from the mailing list as long as it doesn't offend anyone. But if it's something to go into your book, then I'm sure that material won't offend anyone. If there are names or phone numbers or anything personal like that, you might want to block those out or contact the individuals who posted them. But from what I've read, it doesn't look like you want to add anything like that.

I'm also changing my site and would appreciate any feedback you could give me.

Sure, I'll take a look at it.

PS, I saw that some of your message board people recently discussed my book...

I think it is very appropriate for you to mention it. If people are specifically talking about your book, then that's fine. I think it would be inappropriate for commercial people to send unsolicited promotions of their products on the mailing list. But I don't think that's the case here. So feel free to give your offer. I'm sure the readers would appreciate it.

By the way, I haven't updated my site recently. I've only maintained the fishing reports page. Married life is very busy and I don't have the high-speed computer that I had at my parents house. My current computer is a hand-me-down 486. What a pain! One of these days, I'm planning on changing the site to a small boaters and surf fishing site. Mike Watson has done an excellent job on fishing for boaters. So I thought it would be nice to cover different areas. I'm not sure when I'll get around to doing this though.

I'll talk to you later!

Steve

Hi Ken,

I just took a look at your site. It's EXCELLENT! Are you a professional webmaster? I especially like the menu on the left. I was going to do that too when I re-do my site. I just wasn't sure how I was going to do it (with frames, menu at the bottom, etc.). But after seeing yours, I like the way you did it.

I really don't see any negatives about your site. It looks like you were very thorough. I'll have to explore it more.

You must live in the Bay Area because you personally fish a lot of the local piers. Do you also do surf fishing? I like going perch fishing from the shore. I've only started doing this for the past few years, so I'm still learning good spots and techniques.

STEVE "the FishMaster" LAU
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http://www.LauNet.com/fishing.page.shtml

Hi Steve,

No, I don't know how to design the sites although I wish I did.

The new site was designed by Rich Reano who was/is a reporter for the Ferry Landing Pier in San Diego. I met him when I was down there this summer, we began talking about the site, and one thing led to another. He's a very mature and impressive guy and has put a lot of time into the new design.

As for myself, I live in Mendocino County but get down to the Bay Area piers as often as possible. Both my son and daughter live in the Bay Area so my wife and I are down generally at least once a month. From 1970-1979 I lived in Pinole and fished most of the East Bay and North Bay piers (as well as a lot of trips to Pacifica), and when I began to write the pier book I really researched out and began to fish all the piers. I would like to be able to say I fish every pier in the state every year but actually it usually winds up being 60-70 piers and much of that takes place in summertime trips along the coast (when I'm not teaching). However, the rest of the year is concentrated on piers in northern California and the Bay Area so I'm never without a pier.

When I was young I did a lot of surf fishing but after writing the book I find that almost all of my fishing is done on the piers -- although I also try to get in a few boat trips each year.

But there is simply never enough time to visit all the piers and fish as much as I would like. Perhaps when I retire in about ten years.

Got to go but good talking at you,

Best wishes and good fishin', Ken


Date: October 6, 1998
To: Gil Sperry
From: Ken Jones
Subject: Changes

Hi Gil,

We've made some major changes to the site. Take a look and let me know what you think. By the way, an update of your page is next.

Best wishes, Ken

Ken,

WOW!!!

What a transformation...what a wonderful site...right after I received your e- mail to check out what you'd done, an avid fan of yours (one of the legion, I'm sure), Rob M, posted a message on our board about your new and improved site...

I will direct everyone I know that has any interest in fishing from the structure (or fishing in general ) to www.pierfishing.com (great new, easily remembered, name, too)

Looking forward to your new and improved PESCA page, as well

Thanks for all your help...its been a crazy year but a personally fulfilling one, I believe, for both of us.

Keep it up (all it takes is knowledge, energy, and a bit of long green)...you're the best...

Sincerely,
Gil


Date: October 7, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Doug L
Subject: book

I was wondering where I might find a copy of your book, "Pier Fishing California". I live in Arizona and a book of this sort would help greatly for my trips to California to do some fishing.

Thank you for your time

Hi Doug,

I'm not sure if you can find it in book stores over there. However, you can order it direct through the site (see my merchandise page). The price is less than at a store since I pay the tax and you'll have it within a week.

Best wishes, Ken


Date: October 7, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Matt Forget
Subject: Fishin'

Ken, I'm here to help you Northerners Out!

Hi Matt,

Glad to hear from you! With a message board now in operation we can hopefully have more up-to-date reports on what's happening. The only once-a-month reports was the source of occasional complaints about the old site.

Also enjoyed your newsletter, especially the article on the Imperial Beach Pier. Look forward to hearing more from you.

Best wishes, Ken


October 7, 1998
To: Jeff G
From: Ken Jones
Subject: Website

Jeff,

If you get a chance check out the site changes and let me know what you think.

Best wishes, Ken

Ken:

I like it! Keep up the good work! Which reminds me I need to get out to the pier ASAP!

Jeff G, Oakland


Date: October 7, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Mykel V
Subject: San Leandro Marina

Fishing has been decent for stripers. I went Saturday (10/05/98) and a couple of people caught limit size fish. Friday night a buddy of mine caught a 25" incher and a lot of smelt but no sharks or rays.

Mykel,

Thanks for the information about the San Leandro Marina Pier. I will include it in the next report.

Best wishes, Ken Jones, The Pier Fisherman


Date: October 8, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Richard B
Subject: Good Job

Not only the best fishing site I seen but also is right here in the Bay Area! Good work. Looking forward to coming back!

Richard,

Thanks for your kind comments.

Ken Jones, The Pier Fisherman


Date: October 8, 1998
To: Matt S
From: Ken Jones
Subject: Site

Hi Matt,

If you get a chance check out the changes and let me know what you think.

Best wishes, Ken

Hey Ken,

The new site looks great! It really makes it very professional like and I love all of the other improvements you've been doing. This weekend I am planing on going to Pier 7 so I was wondering if it was going to be crowded like when you were there. When did you go and when do you think the best time for the fishing might be? I want to try for something big like a striper or a leopard shark. If I can go, I'll get you a report when I get home.

Matt

Oh by the way, I also read your article in the PESCA news thingie. It was really good. By the way, is that a picture of you holding that fish?

Matt (again)

Hi Matt,

Glad you liked the new look.

As for Pier 7, I get the impression that the early bird gets the worm. In other words, to get one of the spots at the end I think you have to get there pretty early. The SPOT seems to be the right corner and a long cast provides the best BIG shark action.

As for the PESCA picture, no that was my dad.

Best wishes, Ken

Hey Ken,

Just got out of prison camp (school) and I am really excited about fishing tomorrow. Jimmy and I are going to go make a hit at Pier 7 and I'm hoping to catch something big like a striper or halibut, but a shark, ray or anything else that you can weigh in pounds is fine. Now, do you cast out far for those species or do you just kind of toss out a few feet? By the way, I was just reading the literature on your page and man have you attracted a lot of people to the site. Well, hope to see you there sometime.

Matt

Matt,

It looked to me like the biggest fish were caught by those who used heavier rods and cast out a long way from the pier. It was the far right corner the last time I way there but also that may have been because the tide was coming in. There's some growth out there so expect to possibly lose a sinker or two but it is worth the effort. Let me know how you do.

PS, Take along a Lucky Lura-type snag line in case they are still snagging live anchovies and sardines. They make the best bait.

Best wishes, Ken

Hey Ken,

I finally made it to Pier 7 and man was it a beautiful day. There were a lot of anglers out there so room was a little limited at first, but soon it cleared up and I was able to get a good spot. Nothing but some small smoothhound sharks and a very nice sized leopard shark. I missed a few large bites but managed to catch a small and a large smoothhound that put up a nice scuffle. A lot of those little anchovies and such being caught too, unfortunately I didn't have the special rig for them. Wasn't as great as I had expected today but it was fun reading those bites on my big rod.

Matt

PS- Too bad that the pier is being vandalized. All the trash cans are "tagged" and people are really screwing things up out there. I even spotted a part of the pier that was burnt. Too bad since it is such a
nice (and expensive) pier.

Hi Matt,

I agree with your thoughts. I've never understood why anglers don't try to keep the piers in better shape, clean up after themselves, throw small fish back, etc.

Thanks for the report and better fishing next time, Ken


Date: October 11, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Kiguchi Takeshi
Subject: Fishing

Hi! How are you doing? Did you go fishing? I went to the Sacrament River and Oroville (Feather River). And I caught 6 salmon. I kept 2 big females which were over 20 pounds. After that, I ate salmon and salmon eggs. Especially, I ate salmon eggs for sushi. How about you ? Someday, let's go fishing? Tell me your fishing. I will go salmon fishing again. Keep in touch!

Hi Kiguchi,

No, I haven't had much chance to go fishing. I've been very busy at school and that has resulted in little time to go fishing. Maybe I can go fishing with you one of these days but right now I'm not too sure when it would be.

In the meantime, good luck on your various fishing trips. Hope you continue to catch the big ones.

Best wishes, Ken Jones


Date: October 11, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Chris
Subject: Fishing at Pier 7 10/11/98

Hi,

Today I went to Pier 7 at 5 a.m. and caught 8 sharks. Nothing else but sharks but a person caught a humungus bat ray, more than 20 lbs. It wouldn't come up but then the person put the rod on the railing and circled the line around the rail. The ray just didn't move and just laid in the water. Then I left at 9 a.m. When I went on 10/9/98 I went at 5 p.m. and caught two jacksmelt, a shark and one white croaker. The man next to me caught a dozen white croakers and two bat rays. A baby ray and a 10 lb. bat ray. Left at 9 p.m.

Hi Chris,

Well, sharks are fun. No stripers or halibut though? Sounds like things might be slowing down although you're still catching some fish.

Anyway, best wishes and hope you continue to catch the big ones.

Ken

Well there were no stripers or halibut on Sunday but people say on Saturday there were 35 rods and each of those rods got something and lots of stripers on Saturday. The fishermen say that Pier 7 is known for a lot of stripers.

Chris,

VERY INTERESTING.

Thanks, Ken


Date: October 15, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Russell Grossbard
Subject: Crystal Pier

HI, KEN.

Thank you for the E-mail ! Well things are starting to come together at are new house so my self and family went to Crystal Pier on Sunday 10/11/98 for a few hours in the afternoon. I had a go at getting some lobsters but didn't have any luck. There wasn't a lot of fishermen there, those that were there were catching mackerel at the end of the pier and those down in the surf end were catching surf perch and a small croaker. I caught a small sting ray and a thornback on a bait rig and a small halibut on my other rod. By the way Ken I like the new site. I didn't get much of a chance to see the last time you sent me E-mail so I had a look at it today. I like it a lot' and it is easy to get around -- 'good show. '' Well I am getting off for now I hope to be going down next week end for a few hours so I will let you know how things are doing down at the pier. 'O' before I forget, the bait shop is now closed on weekdays so I am told. I hope to be fishing a bit more now that the lobster season is open so I should be able to give you a more up to date report soon so until the next time its cheers !!.

Russell Grossbard .

Thanks for the report Russell


Date: October 17, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Chris B
Subject: Fort Point Pier

I went crabbing Friday, Oct. 16, 1998. We arrived at the pier at 06:30 A.M. I was fishing with my friend Mike K, we are both from Fairfield Ca. We had four crab nets (two each) baited with chicken legs and fish from some stripers we caught last week. We had our full limits of crab by 11:00 A.M. Most were BIG REDS. There were about fifteen people on the pier crabbing and fishing all doing good, some kids showed up at 9:30 and started fishing with pile worms. They caught perch, shiners, and some smelt; they had about ten or more fish.

Chris,

Thanks for the information. That pier is one of my favorites and I'm glad to see it has had good fishing this year.

Best wishes, Ken Jones, The Pier Fisherman


Date: October 19, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Mark Grim
Subject: pierfishing.com

Hi Ken,

I really like the new look of your site. Not that your former layout was bad, :-), but it is a positive change and is quite attractive and commands a person's attention. Good work!!

Mark
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Date: October 23, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Matt S
Subject: Antioch?

Hey Ken,

I was thinking about maybe fishing one of the piers near Antioch this weekend. Got any suggestions on where to go for the best results? Any tips for stripers, catfish or Black Bass? If you could also tell me if there is a launch ramp near by, I would appreciate it. My friend and I might do some see-doo ing while up there. Actually, I'll probably spend the entire time fishing knowing my habits. Thanx.

Matt

Hi Matt,

Sorry for the late response but I was gone for a few days to a conference at Stanford. As for Antioch, there are marinas near the Antioch Bridge and Antioch Marina Piers; don't know if they offer public boat launches although they should.

Sorry your trip to Pier 7 wasn't better but at least you got some fish.

Also sorry to hear about the homework. As a teacher I know that sometimes we are hard on you guys. Hope it isn't too much.

Best wishes, Ken

PS -- I'm starting up a fishing club at our school.

Hey Ken

That's pretty cool that you are starting a fishing club. I would too at my school but not enough people fish at all. Well, due to a surprise rain attack on Saturday morning, my trip to Antioch was canceled, but I hope to get up there soon before all of the stripers disappear. So instead, I went to Pacifica with my buddy Jimmy. I saw one barely legal striper caught and another nice sized one at the end of the day. Neither Jimmy nor I got a striper. I think we need some game wardens out there because some people have no clue what they are doing. Everybody is keeping the Dungeness crabs which are still out of season, and just a whole load of other dumb things. I can't believe that they are allowed to fish. What do you think I should do about it?

Matt

Matt,

You could always call Cal-Tip.


Date: October 25, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Audrey Kim
Subject: Huntington Beach Pier /Berkeley Pier

Hi Ken,

This month there has been a large amount of small fish around the pier. Lots of jacksmelt, sardines at a certain time of day, herring, etc. Halibut are biting all over the pier off of frozen anchovies and live bait, mostly around 18 inches, not many keepers. Croakers and perch are all around mostly caught on mussels. I haven't seen as many corbina as of late. You can see lots of mollies (sp?) racing around under the surface, but I guess they're veggies so no one catches them, and halfway down the pier you can see some sort of rays kicking up dirt at the bottom. Lots of mackerel, some sharks.

I was at Berkeley pier twice last week, and during the morning and mid afternoon I was able to catch lots of live bait on a bait rig (smelts and sardines), including two large smelts (not bait), at the end of the pier. My dad pulled in a 20-inch striped bass (what a good fighter and nice looking fish!), and on two occasions, a large fish ran with the line and snapped it almost immediately. Next time, we'll definitely bring a stronger line (we had one with a 12-lb and one with a 15-lb.)

Audrey

Hi Audrey,

Thanks for the great report. Let me know when you're in the Bay Area and maybe I can shoot down there and meet you one of these days.


Date: October 27, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Glen
Subject: Nice New Improved Site!

The new design is great, easier to get around and more detailed. I tried several times in the last year to send an e-mail but it never went through (some conflict between AOL and Pacific Net, I guess). Maybe I'll be lucky here. . .

I bought a copy of Pier Fishing In California nearly four years ago, and I've been meaning to tell you how much I've appreciated it. I'm a shoreliner who roams banks and beaches mostly and, every so often, public piers. I fish Berkeley Pier about once a month and Point Pinole Pier about twice a year, but I work the adjacent shore much more frequently at both places. The book has been extremely helpful not only for piers and their environment, but for the useful information about bait, tackle, and species. I always tell anglers new to the Bay Area to go out and get the book because the back section alone will aid them immeasurably in what fish are here and what works to catch those fish. It's certainly helped me! As of this writing (10/27/98) I've caught 580 fish for the year, averaging 3.7 fish per outing. I'm a big believer in catch and release but I do take home the occasional keeper striper as well as perch and rockfish (got four black perch today which totaled 10 pounds--huge "pogies" who hit hard and fast on shore crabs). So much for tooting my horn--I'm not trying to brag, merely mentioning that my success is due in no small part to the data I've gleaned from your most excellent book. Thanks!

By the way, I write a biweekly shoreliner's report for my local bait and tackle shop in Richmond, and I'll be putting it up on the web sometime before 1999, if I can stop fishing long enough to get it assembled. It's basically for shoreliners only (though I suppose boaters would find some use in it),
specifically in the East Bay and generally in the region from Half Moon Bay to Point Reyes on the ocean, San Francisco to San Rafael on the west side of the Bay, and Alameda to the Carquinez Strait on this side. I also fish the north and south Delta, mostly for catfish, but there are plenty of reports and/or publications for that realm. I'll let you know when it's up and running, if you like. (I'll also notify Steve Lau and Lon Tokunaga and see if they'll include me in their links. BARF might not because I constantly hector them on their boater-chauvinism when I send reports in.)

My apologies for the longwinded e-mail. Fishing tends to induce loquacity even among the more taciturn. Mendacity, too, though that's another story. Anyway, thanks again for your wonderful book. Good fishing! Glen

PS Rat-L-Traps are extremely effective along the Berkeley shore these days. I caught and released 15 bass in three trips, many of them above 18" (though one 22" I had to keep because the big fat pig swallowed my 3/4oz lure in one single gulp!). There have been some rather large stripers bagged at Berkeley Pier on anchovies and blood worms and grass shrimp, including one that measured 38" and probably weighed around 20#.

Glen,

Thanks for the message and don't worry about writing too long a note -- I'm the master of long winded conversations.

Glad you like the new site! It is designed by Rich Reano who was/is giving fishing reports about the Ferry Landing Pier in San Diego. When I went down to San Diego this summer we met at the pier and in our discussion about fishing and the web site he offered to redesign the site. One thing led to another and the result is the new and improved site. Although I never knew the old site had problems like you mentioned, I've had several people send me somewhat similar information. Hopefully those problems are now corrected.

As for your newsletter, I'd like to see it. I used to live in Pinole and fished the Bay Area heavily for about ten years. Today I live in Mendocino County and only fish the Bay Area piers about 15-20 times a year. I'm always looking for new information and ideas and would gladly share your expertise with others -- if you so desired. I'm also looking for reporters for several of the areas you mentioned so let me know. In addition I will be glad to give you a link when you get your site up and running.

As for the book, I appreciate your comments. I hoped it would help and many have said it did. I'm finishing up the second edition at this time but trying to figure how to print it. I'm thinking of printing it myself but it is an expensive risk. The question is if the risk is worth the reward. The publisher of Marketscope Books does not really want to publish it since it he feels it has a far more limited market than his other books (even though the first book sold fairly well). Anyway, the rough draft is basically done and it is about 50% bigger (and I think better) and I still hope to make a decision and get it printed by next spring/summer.

Well, I had better go but thanks again for your letter and I hope to hear from you again.

Best wishes and good fishin', Ken Jones, The Pier Fisherman


Date: October 28, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Audrey Kim
Subject: Huntington Beach Pier
Subject: Re: Thanks

Hi Ken,

Yesterday, I managed to catch 2 small wall-eyed perches, 1 sardine and tons of jacksmelt. Even two large mackerel hit my hit. The sardine was taken by an undersize (maybe 22 inches) barracuda.

Today, there were tons of sardines around, but they mostly weren't biting the rig. Managed to get a few. My dad caught and threw back one bat ray and one 11 inch bass. This other regular, Bob, kept
getting big hits on his large sardines, but didn't manage to pull it up before we left. Someone also snagged a large brown green (something-mouth?) perch on his bait rig. The kids around are catching tons of mackerel at the end of the pier, on cut anchovies and mackerel chunks.

Audrey

Thanks again for the report.


Date: October 28, 1998
To: Ken Jones
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Date: October 28, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Mark Grim
Subject: Fishing Report for This Month

Ken,

Here are my reports for this month.

Antioch Bridge Pier:

Striper fishing here has picked up this month. Several keeper sized striped bass are being taken each day. The best baits have been frozen shad and sardines. I usually use frozen cut anchovies and was able to catch quite a few undersized stripers on a recent visit. Catfish and black bass have slowed down.

Pittsburg Pier:

Some striper action has been reported here. The big story here is the salmon bite. Be sure to bring along some artificial lures, I recommend either Mepps or Blue Fox or any similar spinning lure, and try for a salmon.

City of Benicia Pier:

Lots of striper action lately here. They are biting on a variety of baits. The best for larger stripers seems to be live bullheads or mudsuckers, but other options are bloodworms, pile worms, frozen anchovies, shad, or grass shrimp. I have heard that a few salmon and sturgeon have been caught here recently.

City of Martinez Pier:

A few striped bass have been caught here lately. Try frozen anchovies for stripers and grass shrimp for an occasional sturgeon.

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Date: October 29, 1998
To: Ken Jones
From: Zorro
Subject: Gaviota Report

I fished Gaviota Twice this month on the 12th and 18th.

12 October. In summary, it was a great day to fish! It was hard not to catch fish on the 12th. Sardines on the left side of the pier and jacksmelt and mackerel on the right side of the pier. I used a Lucky Lura rig with a Chrome Torpedo sinker with a treble hook. The mackerel were so aggressive that 6 inchers were hitting the 4 ounce chrome sinker instead of the Lucky Lura! The Mackerel were the usual mix of minnows to pound and a half, sardines were 4 to 10 inches, but the jacksmelt were large -- two 16 Inches and one 18! There were also numerous average size jacksmelt too. No surfperch of any kind were caught or seen caught. Also many of the smelt were up close to the rocks. I do not remember anything about smelt being a rock fish.

18 October. In summary, an OK day. Lots of small fish many mini mackerel, smelt, and a few sardines. Almost all the fish were small, the only exception were two good jacksmelt I caught. General things at Gaviota: lures are beating bait by a BIG margin, bottom fish are gone, and chumming with cat food and bread works.

Zoy Hann, Lompoc CA