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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:12 pm
ucscrab


Posts: 206
Location: Upper Monterey Bay

Went fishing on the Wharf last night and last thursday around 10pm - 1am

A lot of white croaker out there if anyone eats that stuff.

Between the two days I caught around 20ish white croaker and 7 big big bullheads probably 5-7in each.

I used small croakers 1-3in as bait, but nothing hit them.

Some guys were catching rockcrabs. I didnt see them but they said they were legal.

Not sure where they caught them at because the only thing I got in my net was one 3in slender crab and a 3-4in dungeness crab (a first). I knew it was a dungeness cause it had that weird design on its back, the legs werent purple and there was hair on the back of it's legs. I do pray that someday there will be legal size dungees on the wharf Smile

A couple of people took about a bucket full of croaker (yuk.) home to eat.

Also caught one sanddab about 9inches. Some other people were catching sanddabs as well but at most 2 in a night.

I had a real big problem with the fish swallowing the hooks, so I used a couple kingfish as fresh crab bait. Maybe they were swalling the hooks because it was hard to see? hooks to size 2-6.


The fish that werent sacrificed were released.

I would post pictures but my phone doesn't have flash and it's pretty dimly lit there.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:18 pm
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Location: Lakeport California on Clear Lake

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A lot of white croaker out there if anyone eats that stuff.

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A couple of people took about a bucket full of croaker (yuk.) home to eat.


Because you think croaker AKA kingfish are junk is no reason to condemn other people for taking and eating them.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:05 pm
Sin_Coast


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Location: Marina, CA

Thanks for the report! That's better than I've ever done there lol. Cool deal on the dungie too!
I think white croaker are kinda gross too. I'd use tiny ones for bait and toss back the rest, just like ucscrab did. I imagine the ones there are full of pollutants, just like in some of the harbors in socal.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:12 pm
MisterWoodstream


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Location: Hawaiian Gardens

perchhead wrote:
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A lot of white croaker out there if anyone eats that stuff.

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A couple of people took about a bucket full of croaker (yuk.) home to eat.


Because you think croaker AKA kingfish are junk is no reason to condemn other people for taking and eating them.

It might be due to the higher levels of contamination found in them. Pan-fried croaker tastes great, but I've had croaker that consistently tasted funny (chlorine/chemical aftertaste) that were caught from the jetty in Freeport in the gulf. It's a shame, really.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:17 pm
ucscrab


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Location: Upper Monterey Bay

perchhead wrote:
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A lot of white croaker out there if anyone eats that stuff.

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A couple of people took about a bucket full of croaker (yuk.) home to eat.


Because you think croaker AKA kingfish are junk is no reason to condemn other people for taking and eating them.


It wasn't my intention to insult kingfish eaters. I apologize if i did Wink.

To be fair, I haven't ever tried them myself.

My old man tried it once and said it's some of the worse fish he ever ate. But then again, he caught a whole bunch down south near longbeach. Which would probably explain the taste.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:32 pm
CatchinKelp


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Location: Santa Barbara County

^ I'd expect any of them from south of Oxnard to be awful-tasting and probably toxic. But what else is new...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:05 am
Louis


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Location: Big Sur

I've caught many croaker out of the capitola area and have eaten them, pretty damn good in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:18 am
dowaito


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Location: Mission Viejo

i love pan fried croakers!!
too bad i can't catch and eat the ones down here. =/
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:11 am
seabass_seeker


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Location: Goleta

Filleted a larger one the other day, coated in cajun fishfry and deep fried. Very very tasty, reminds me of the "seabass" that I had at a restaurant. I'd second the notion of not eating them in high industrial areas though. I believe they get a bad rep for being "wormy" also, although I believe rockfish to be even more wormy. The thing with croakers is that the worms in the stomach cavity are easily seen compared to fish with black stomach wall lining (jacksmelt, opaleye etc).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:25 pm
dkkim


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Kingfish, the other white meat.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:35 pm
surfsamurai


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Louis wrote:
I've caught many croaker out of the capitola area and have eaten them, pretty damn good in my opinion.


I don't eat 'em but V loves it. It's all you can eat pan-fried king fish along with Gahl-bi if you go to Palace BBQ in Sunnyvale.



From what I understand, it's a delicacy and insanely expensive in Korea. REAL"Gool Bi" aka white croakers which harvested from the certain area in Korean sea, I think...

Even my homie from Hawaii, BJ Penn eats here... He loves "gool bi"... I don't know if he does... I'm just saying...



Thank you for the report, uscrab!

P.S. Sin Coast secretly eats king fish as well as LMB sashimi from Anderson Lake...

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:43 pm
kchoo


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Here's an actual first hand report on how a SC Wharf croaker tastes like if anyone is interested.

I was on the SC Wharf on Sunday 5th Feb. I fished from around 11-12:30 near the end and caught one croaker. I'm fairly new to fishing so it was my first croaker. Anyways, I decided to bring it home for dinner since it was only one fish (=moderation).

While frying, the croaker gave off a very slight weird smell. Iodine? When I tried the meat, it tasted normal and fairly flavorful, and the strange smell was no longer present, although it was a little tougher than I would have expected for a fish this size.

However, at two different places, when I pulled the skin off the meat, I was able to easily pull free long, dark brown strings about one half to an inch long. Were those worms? They came out quite easily and were right under the skin (as opposed to embedded in flesh), so I didn't think they were blood vessels.

The thought that those might be worms made me lose my appetite and defeated what pride I had from my ancient lineage of fish eating ancestors. I thought I could eat anything, but...

Hopefully this info is useful for others who catch croakers at SC Wharf in the future.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:20 pm
Ken Jones


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First off, the kingfish in the Gulf are not the same as what we call kingfish out here. White croaker aka kingfish (in Central California) aka tomcod (in SoCal) aka roncador (in Santa Barbara) aka Pasadena trout (in the olden days in LA) aka sewer trout, etc. are typically fine to eat if caught in the open ocean in Central California. The water is colder, the bottom areas are not too polluted, and the fish typically have a decent taste and texture (if you like croaker). What gets them in trouble is the fact that they are bottom feeders that love to eat around sewer areas and thus are unhealthy to eat in many areas including much of SoCal and most bays including SF Bay, San Diego Bay and San Pedro Bay. Same fish but different flesh if it's from the Santa Cruz Wharf (OK) or Cabrillo Pier (not OK).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:25 pm
ucscrab


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Location: Upper Monterey Bay

surfsamurai wrote:


I don't eat 'em but V loves it. It's all you can eat pan-fried king fish along with Gahl-bi if you go to Palace BBQ in Sunnyvale.



Palace BBQ is good, but it's damn expensive!
30 bucks last time I went D:
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:48 am
Sin_Coast


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Location: Marina, CA

surfsamurai wrote:

P.S. Sin Coast secretly eats king fish as well as LMB sashimi from Anderson Lake...

That's how I maintain my glow! hahahaha

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