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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:57 pm
CRASS


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Location: Pacifica, CA

i totally get where youre coming from, and i agree. i just dont think its SUCH a huge deal.. but i feel ya.

people should just take 2 seconds and blur out the background at least. picture still looks okay and nobody has to worry about burn.

ill post an example and a tutorial to do it with programs most people have. then nobody can say they cant do it, and we dont have to deal with giant scribbly pixelated purple boxes around a torso and a fish. Razz

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:01 pm
bass_turd77


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It's not a huge deal, but it is a legitimate issue I think. A lot of new guys don't realize all this; they think it's a good idea to share the love, but never consider the negatives. The next time they hit up the spot and the gang field trip is trashing the place and acting all dumb, they wonder what happened. If it was policy to limit blowing shore spots up, it would help the community out.
I think your idea on editing pics is cool, but currently that's against the regs of thie site owner. That's why its just my opinion that an update of the site rules would be helpful.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:15 pm
CRASS


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Location: Pacifica, CA

haha, i definately agree with that as well. it may not be our descision.. but a tweak in the rules as to that might be a choice idea.

as a skateboarder, i know the importance of spot etiquitte.. which unfortunately yeah, most newbies dont seem to understand. Ive seen many a spot blown out because instead of just keeping groups small and being sure to keep the spot clean and low key there seems to be groups of 20 and litter and graphitti, etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:32 am
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As far as I am concerned, the whole thing is a non issue. If you want to post pics and protect your spot, lay the fish on the ground, take a pic of it and there ya go. You are not required to post the location of your spot, just a general area (IE: "San Mateo Coast", "Contra Costa Shoreline", "LA County Pier" , etc.). If you are fishing in a spot that you think cant handle any pressure, post something like "caught this guy along the Alameda County Shoreline, bait used was.....tackle was.....". I am sure you get my drift.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:51 pm
bass_turd77


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illcatchanything,
That would indeed solve the issue. Why can't it be part of the posting guidelines? Pretty much all experienced anglers already do so, but it is the guys starting out that tend to not give any thought to their environment. How would they know what is a sensitive area, and what is not? My thoughts on this site is that it is an excellent educational site. Why not educate new anglers on correct etiquette? I believe it would go a long way torwards improving the fishing experience for everybody concerned.

If you say that its a non issue as in that this is not important, why would you think that? Shoreline access has indeed been shut off due to thoughtless promotion of certain areas. The attendant trash and police responses generated by anglers behaving badly have prompted property owners to close off public access. Such outcomes benefit none of us that fish.
Why can't we all work together to improve what we have? Its not much, but we can make it better.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:31 am
illcatchanything2


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You make a very good point, and I did not intend to belittle the problem or make it seem like I dont care, so I guess saying its a non issue was a bad choice of words on my part.

By opening this discussion, we can hope that some of our newer members see it and learn. That is what this board is all about, the free exchange of information for learning.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:01 am
Jsnc87


Posts: 220
Location: Bay Area, CA

I have to agree with bass here. I've seen a spot literally get burned before. People started drinking and having illegal bonfires, not to mention the littering...sigh

BTW, I read the rules, still haven't seen anything about putting equipment up for sale?

***Just a suggestion here for the mods... For Sale/Wanted Section. A lot of us like what other people have and I'm sure people would love to learn or familiarize with reels/rods/equipment that other members would/have used. (if not please disregard)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:57 am
Ken Jones


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Pier Fishing in California—

Message Board Rules & Guidelines (Revised 7-18-10)

Pier Fishing in California (PFIC) is dedicated to the saltwater pier and shore anglers of California.

The PFIC Message Board is designed as a way for saltwater pier and shore anglers to share their knowledge and experiences in that environment and, hopefully, help increase their success in that particular environment.

The PFIC Message Board is dedicated to providing a quality web site that can be enjoyed by the entire fraternity of pier and shore anglers (which includes many children). We attempt to maintain a “clean” site that restricts vulgarity and “inappropriate” messages and pictures.

To keep in line with those goals the following rules & guidelines have been established.

Think before you post and then recheck your message after it is made. People have fifteen minutes to edit or delete a message so be careful in what you say.

1. Posts that contain personal attacks will be deleted and the person posting the message may lose posting privileges without notice. [If you have an argument with someone do not use the message board as your medium of communication, take it off the board.]

2. Posts that contain vulgar/obscene language (including abbreviations/Internet acronyms) or vulgar/obscene pictures (including avatars) will be deleted and the person posting the message may lose posting privileges without notice.

3. Deliberately altering photos detracts from the informational and educational aspects of PFIC. And while we acknowledge and respect angler's efforts to guard their "secret spots," anglers are encouraged to frame photographs in such a way that either their locations are not betrayed by the photograph, or (preferably), shared in the benevolent spirit of the pier and shore fishing fraternity.... But not altered.

The same conditions apply to altering appearances. Anglers unwilling to show their face in the picture should not include a personal image. Do not simply erase facial images; such pictures will be removed. As always, editorial license is retained by management and moderators and any photo can be removed with or without cause.

4. In regard to the issue of alcohol and/or tobacco: Moderators will automatically delete any picture showing (known) minors smoking or drinking alcohol. At the same time we realize that these are legal items for adults and used by many PFIC members. As such, we have no intention of deleting pictures that inconsequentially display such use of these items. However, if a subject is showcasing or glorifying the use of alcohol (i.e., the bottle is used as a prop), if the picture causes controversy, or if the moderators feel the picture has been contrived in such a way as to cause controversy, then it will be removed. In such cases the moderators are empowered to delete those pictures felt inappropriate.

In regard to the issue of illegal drugs: Moderators will automatically delete any picture showcasing or glorifying the use of illegal drugs. If the picture causes controversy, or if the moderators feel the picture has been contrived in such a way as to cause controversy, then it will be removed. In such cases the moderators are empowered to delete those pictures felt inappropriate.

5. Habitually negative posts directed toward fellow board members, the site, or moderators, may cause the loss of posting privileges.

6. Posts should be made to the appropriate boards.

The Pier and Surf Fishing Board is the place to post reports, questions, answers, and topics related to California shore-based, fishing. (Allowed areas include all saltwater areas and the Carquinez Strait and West Delta region, up to Rio Vista)

The Off Topic Board is the place to discuss non-pier and non-shore related fishing, i.e., fishing reports from party boats and/or private boats, kayaks and float tubes, freshwater fishing and fishing reports from outside California. This board is also intended for general, non-fishing related discussion.

The Fishery Conservation, Management and Politics Board is the place to share information and opinions on the MLPA, Bay-Delta and other fish/game related issues.

The Rod and Reel Advice/Seminar Board is the place to view and learn technical information from past threads of “the experts.” This board may change in the future.

The Seafood Recipe Board is the place to share favorite seafood recipes of the species typically caught from pier and surf—fish, lobster and crab.

The Favorite Video’s Board is the place to share opinions on the listed videos.

7. If you have a question please use the Search Engine before you post! You can either search the current boards that were started in June 2008 (the Off Topic started in 2005), or search the original PFIC Message Board that contains over 250,000 archived messages from 1997-2008. Chances are, the topic may have already been covered. If you can't find what you are looking for, or have something new that may be of interest to others, feel free to post a message.

8. Gratuitous posts of a personal nature are subject to deletion.

9. Commercial posts or advertisements are prohibited unless permission has been obtained from the PFIC staff. This includes signatures. Contact Ken Jones for permission before including commercial ads or links in your posts or signature.

10. The message board is not a chat room. Use the personal mailbox at the top of the page to send personal notes to someone on the board.

The rules & guidelines listed above are by no means complete. The moderators of the PFIC message board are given discretion to determine the appropriateness of posts. If your post gets deleted, try not to take it personally. The goal is to have messages that benefit the entire PFIC family.

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