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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:04 am
Redkorn


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Well this weekend I picked up a new Avet SX MC from Sav-on...Green.

I had them spool it up with 17lb Pline since thats all they had which is kinda odd to me. I wanted Pink line but that was not case =(

Now For the Question.

Summer is going to heat up fast I plan on going for Yellowtail...Mako...And swordfish if I got the funds.

Call me an old man but I love mono, It's cheap it work's but these new smaller reels really just cant hold much.

AVET's I have

MXL MC
SX MC




So what kind of braids should I have it spooled on? Top Shot?

Backing???? I really dont have clue I know what backing is but other said mono on top...mono on bottom. Now I find myself in unknown waters.

What is spectra???????

Brands?


Line Winders? Cheap to do it at home or tackle shop time???????

And I need a good old level wind cheapie reel with a good handle on it. Something that can hold alot of mono 60lb and up. For yellowtail...

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:25 am
mav


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I like mono also... Good luck on casting straight braid in that SX... You have to be real careful... If you aren't doing any forceful casting then you're ok.. I don't know what the difference is when casting an Avet reel with magnetic cast control... It might be better..

There are different types of braided lines and spectra is a type of super braid line...

With the new super braids there are a whole different set of variables. They are thinner and if you go too thin when fishing for big fish, they tend to dig in... I usually go with line diameter (mono size) to fit the reel as opposed to #test...

Super braids can pick up particles that can be abrasive to your guides like a saw.. It tangles easier... So, if you get a good backlash, good luck with that... (crazy LOL) They are very strong lines though... I usually use braid for ultra light spinning using topwater or bait fishing on my conventionals...

Some people use mono backing or some sort of braid adhesive so that the braid doesn't slip on the reel spool... I don't know how many people had their drags changed, when in fact, the problem was their braid slipping on the spool...

A lot of people that I know use a topshot of mono or flouro just to MORE THAN cover their furthest cast, using an albright knot to attach both lines....

I hear Power Pro and P-Line are good brands..

A cheapie level wind reel to use 60# mono? The only cheapies that I know of are only made to handle 30# test. Try looking at the Penns because it's probably easier find parts if you break the level wind...

I don't know anything about line winders...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:45 pm
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Redcorn,

Although I'm no familiar with the reel, this is my take on braid vs. mono.

Both have their time and place. It depends on the rod and the fish you're matching it too. For example, on a high graphite fast action rod and for fish with soft mouths,,,braid is not the way I'd go. It also depends on the style of fishing you'll be doing.
On circles, for fish that are picking up and running and all you're doing is 'locking down' to set the hook and your line diameter matches the rod and fish, I like braid. For rock fish, in which I need to win the first foot or so, I don't want any stretch; braid works again, very well imho.

Sorry that I can't be more specific, but this is going into only my second year of braid fishing. I'm still in the experimental period. But, after fishing both, you'll make sense of the pros and cons.

You can pick up 150 yds. of power pro for a 15 bucks, blood not it in and experiment. Even if you don't like it, you can cut it out and re-spool it on to something, after giving it a rinse.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:28 pm
mav


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slowriprun wrote:


Both have their time and place. It depends on the rod and the fish you're matching it too. For example, on a high graphite fast action rod and for fish with soft mouths,,,braid is not the way I'd go. It also depends on the style of fishing you'll be doing.

On circles, for fish that are picking up and running and all you're doing is 'locking down' to set the hook and your line diameter matches the rod and fish, I like braid. For rock fish, in which I need to win the first foot or so, I don't want any stretch; braid works again, very well imho.



^^^^ Yep... Totally agree...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:53 pm
bigred805


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Location: lompoc ca

Congrats on the new reel I have an sx also and love it. I have 50 pound braid ( jerry brown) on the sx and if you get it spooled on tight enough you can fit 300 yards. I use mine for jigging and have been happy with its performance for such a little reel. No need for mono backing just use tape you'll get more capacity and works just as well. As for the topshot it really depends how your fishing. When jigging rockfish I usually use a piece of mono 6 to 10 feet long and that's it. The whole reason for topshot is to either 1. Add stretch to your rig or 2. Its cheaper then filling your spool all the way with braid. I have an avet lx with 300 yards 65# power pro then topped the spool off (topshot) with 140 yards of 40# mono. As for braid brands can't go wrong with PP but a lot of people swear by hollow core... its just to expensive for my taste. Hope you like the reel!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:48 pm
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Well, if it's an sx, it's a pretty small reel, but as a lever drag you can get plenty of drag. Spectra is a fiber that most braided lines utilize for strength, but now people use it as a synonym for braided super lines in general. Lots of folk are just loading up their reels almost completely with braided these days and fishing a very short top shot when live bait fishing, since the bait swims more freely so you can get bit better. They can handle some pretty big fish...seen guys catch 30 lb yellowtail on them and 40 lb tuna. What lb. test you put on it depends on what you want to fish or. I wouldn't go higher than 50, would probally go 40 or even 30 for a little more capacity and then fish very short 10 ft or less top shot or leaders of the mono or flouro of preference. I agree with other poster, since it's such a small reel, put some flex wrap or tape on the spool first. Sounds like you have a new fun toy! You don't need a line winder to put spectra on that little reel, just spool it on another reel first, then have a friend hold the other rod and spool it with some drag tension...needs to go on tight. You can supposedly get more capacity if you spool on hollow core, which is the izorline, Jerry brown, and a few others, but for 50 lb or less you don't need it...hollow core is mainly for the higher lb. tests like 60 and above and lots of the long rangers like it because it offers more versatility for your topshot connections and you can splice it into itself or other lines. I'd get braided just because you can feel the bites way better than with mono, especially with a short top shot or if you fish a carolina rig with a mono or flouro leader...(try it in the surf or bass fishing and you'll see). Different braided have different diameters...like stren super braid is thicker than power pro, but that daiwa samurai braided is even thinner supposedly ive heard which might matter with that reel.

Also, big level wind cheap reel doesnt sound like a good idea for fishing 60 lb for yellowtail. Sounds like you a re planning to hit baja for some deep water panga dropper loop yellowtail fishing...if thats the case, forget any cheap levelwind...good for maybe rockfish but those deep yellowtail pull really hard and will rock you fast if your drags are not good even with 60. At a minimum, id go with a 4/0 or even a 6/0 Penn senator and forget the levelwind. If you can get a 2 speed workhorse like a tld 30, that would work great too and theyre pretty affordable as a lot of folks are dumping them in favor of the more glamorous newer 2 speeds...that is if thats why u need a big 60 lb yellowtai outfit...otherwise..nevermind..

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:58 pm
Redkorn


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tackleholic wrote:
Well, if it's an sx, it's a pretty small reel, but as a lever drag you can get plenty of drag. Spectra is a fiber that most braided lines utilize for strength, but now people use it as a synonym for braided super lines in general. Lots of folk are just loading up their reels almost completely with braided these days and fishing a very short top shot when live bait fishing, since the bait swims more freely so you can get bit better. They can handle some pretty big fish...seen guys catch 30 lb yellowtail on them and 40 lb tuna. What lb. test you put on it depends on what you want to fish or. I wouldn't go higher than 50, would probally go 40 or even 30 for a little more capacity and then fish very short 10 ft or less top shot or leaders of the mono or flouro of preference. I agree with other poster, since it's such a small reel, put some flex wrap or tape on the spool first. Sounds like you have a new fun toy! You don't need a line winder to put spectra on that little reel, just spool it on another reel first, then have a friend hold the other rod and spool it with some drag tension...needs to go on tight. You can supposedly get more capacity if you spool on hollow core, which is the izorline, Jerry brown, and a few others, but for 50 lb or less you don't need it...hollow core is mainly for the higher lb. tests like 60 and above and lots of the long rangers like it because it offers more versatility for your topshot connections and you can splice it into itself or other lines. I'd get braided just because you can feel the bites way better than with mono, especially with a short top shot or if you fish a carolina rig with a mono or flouro leader...(try it in the surf or bass fishing and you'll see). Different braided have different diameters...like stren super braid is thicker than power pro, but that daiwa samurai braided is even thinner supposedly ive heard which might matter with that reel.

Just curious, why do you think you need a big levelwind for yellowtail...i can understand a bigger reel than the sx, but levelwind?


Well level wind reel for Yellowtail fishing with 60lb mono....Cheap old reel with cheap fishing line.

I plan on just using it for Tossing green backs and fly lining them when summer heats up for boat fishing...And using it for rockfishing/trolling. I hate putting line back on and most of them time get over runs...

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:06 pm
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Well then, penn gti should get er done.
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