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>> daiwa saltist 40 - the easiest upgrade ever [topic: previous/next]
PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:21 pm
alantani


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i'll admit it. it's never as easy as you see in the posts. sometimes i have to take a reel apart 3 or 4 times before i get it right. the problem i always have is the height difference between the stock drags that i'm throwing away versus the carbon fiber drag washers that i'm installing. the height of the drag stack always has to taken into account. case in point is the daiwa saltiga/saltist 30T/40/50 line. i used to install penn ht-100 drag washers, but the ht's were so thick that i could only used three drag washers inside the gear instead of the 5 drag washers that come stock.

enter carbontex (thank you hara-san!). these woven carbon fiber drag washers are just as thin as the stock drag washers. i mention these specifically, because they are that good....



i cracked open this saltist 40 yesterday. i opened it up, switched out the drag washers, and bolted it back together on the first try. total time was 30 minutes. it was a nice change of pace to nail one on the first try! the schematcs are not available anywhere online. i had to call daiwa and they e-mailed one to me. i hope you saved the one that came with the box. here's the link for the saltiga schematics, which are fairly close.

http://mikesreelrepair.com/schematics/schematic.php?url=Daiwa/Daiwa%20Saltiga%2030T,%2040,%2050.pdf

here's the reel.





first, let's zip out the left side plate screws (key #21), open up the left side plate, lube the bearings and grease the screw holes. then back together it goes.



off come the handle and star.



carefully line up all the pieces in order, including the handle nut screw (key #5Cool, the handle nut (key #57), the handle assembly (key #56), the spacing sleeve (key #55), the star drag (key #54), the bearing washer and click spring assembly (keys # 53 and 66), two drag spring washers (key #52) oriented in a "()" position and bearing washer (key #51).



back out all of right side plate screws (key #49). don't forget the one hiding under the lever!



the right side plate lifts off cleanly and easily. set it aside.



remove and line up the main gear (key #34) and all the drag washers.



leave the anti-reverse ratchet (key #31) and the anti-reverse pawl (key #32) in place. if they come off when you remove the main gear, make sure the pawl "grabs" the ratchet and does not just sit underneath it.



here is the carbontex washer on the left, and the stock saltist washer on the right. funny, the stock washer has the look and feel of paper. it also tears like paper.



so i slopped on some shimano grease....



and put the drag stack back together exactly the way it came apart. i was amazed at how easily the stock drag washers tore. just like paper.



the right side plate dropped into place easily and i greased the screw holes.



in replacing the spring washers, note that the orientation is "()".



a little grease around the star.



now for the handle. yes, about that handle. here's a close up of the rivet that holds the spindle on.



i ground it down with a bench grinder and punched out the spindle. this separated the arm from the spindle and grip.



i bolted on one of my own grips....



bolted the handle assembly back onto the reel and i was done. total elapsed time was 30 minutes. in and out and done in 30 minutes!



i took it down to the local shop and had it loaded with 350 yards of 65 pound power pro. and like a dummy, i forgot to check on the maximum drag. the carbontex upgrade for the last torium 16 that i did had maxed out at 24 pounds. this one should easily exceed that. i will get the max drag later this evening.

so with a stack of saltiga/saltist "5+1" drags versus the trinidad/toriums "3+1" drag stack, the saltist should hit 25 pounds easily, maybe even more. so does this make the saltiga/saltist reel better than the trinidad/torium line? not really. who would use more than 15#'s of drag anyway? i'd say the carbontex washers pretty much level the playing field. to me, that's what greased carbon fiber is all about.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:12 pm
grammar police


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Superb Alan. I have yet to hear you say a bad word about the Satist line yet. Since you have done the drag swap, the 30T has preformed above expectations. Next I'd like to bring you a 6pk of Saporro and get the handle upgrade. Smile

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:20 pm
Ken Jones


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Alan, Would you mind if we archived some of your reel repair posts under the tackle tips section?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:48 pm
alantani


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thank you, that's absolutely no problem. and also, if anyone has requests for specific reels for rebuild posts, please let me know. thanks! alan
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:59 pm
baitfish


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You would use more than 15#'s if you are fishing 50#-60# braid and trying to turn a yellow heading for the kelp.

Great tutorial, I was wondering about these reels, nice to know Shimano still has the edge.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:50 pm
stripesidechaser


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Have you done any Daiwa Grandwaves? Just wondering how the quality compares.
Man, I think I'd like to bring you all my reels for overhaul... just so I could get your opinion of the various reels.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:05 pm
alantani


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the grandwaves are fine. the paint job makes people think it's an all metal chassis. that's my only gripe.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:58 pm
jtstryper


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Alan, I noticed that there are little or no grease applied to the main gears. Is it necessary? My spinning reels when taken apart has some thick grease on those torque gears.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:11 am
stripesidechaser


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alantani wrote:
the grandwaves are fine. the paint job makes people think it's an all metal chassis. that's my only gripe.


Doh! They aren't? what are they?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:34 pm
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baitfish wrote:
Great tutorial, I was wondering about these reels, nice to know Shimano still has the edge.


Shimano? You mena Diawa right!? Wink

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