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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:37 pm
dsrtegl


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WAY TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE EVEN AT WALMART


MAKING YOUR OWN FISHING WEIGHTS 101.....

1) Wood Molds SUCK....They do not last well and are potentially VERY DANGEROUS
2) MOST scrap yards have lead at as little as $1/pound......But be warned....Much is "Dirty Lead" that has to be "refined" a bit. Avoid this process by purchasing pure "soft lead"
3) PROPER SAFETY IS A MUST.....Outside ONLY......and no moisture ANYWHERE NEAR the hot lead.....A stray drop of sweat can be disasterous...TRUST ME ON THIS

EQUIPMENT
Butane Camp Stove ($20 at most retailers)
Butane Fuel ($7/4 pack)
Small Cast Iron Sauce Pan (mine was $2 at a thrift Store)
Cast Iron Ingot mold (for casting the refined lead....a thrift store muffin pan can work)
Ladle (mine is a 1/4 cup SS Measuring Cup that Hammered pour spouts into and added a wood handle to)
Sinker Mold (I purchased 2 Do-It Sinker Molds ($45 +/- EACH) and am very pleased)

REFINING LEAD

Melt Lead in fairly large batches in the pot......Skim off the crust.....This will be obvious when you see it.....and pour into molds to cast your ingots

PREPARING THE MOLD

"Darken" the inside of the sinker mold with either a candles soot or that from an oil lamp....I use an oil lamp.....This prevents the cast sinkers from sticking in the mold

PLENTY OF "HOW-TO" vids on YouTube

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:18 pm
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Just a FYI......In a total of 10 hours of work I successfully poured over 50# of useable fishing weights......Think of how much that would cost at the tackle shop
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:38 am
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Are molds for weights expensive? or hard to find?
I have seen a few at Fisherman's Warehouse in Cupertino a long time ago.. but its been for ever since i have been in there.. I will check next weekend when i go to stock up for the Catalina trip.

if a mold is hard thing to find for a decent price... do you have to use cast iron for the mold?.. or can you get away with an aluminum mold?

If aluminum works.. I can make custom shapes.. I have access to CNC equipment.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:21 pm
dsrtegl


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steveo wrote:
Are molds for weights expensive? or hard to find?
I have seen a few at Fisherman's Warehouse in Cupertino a long time ago.. but its been for ever since i have been in there.. I will check next weekend when i go to stock up for the Catalina trip.

if a mold is hard thing to find for a decent price... do you have to use cast iron for the mold?.. or can you get away with an aluminum mold?

If aluminum works.. I can make custom shapes.. I have access to CNC equipment.


So far I have only used Do-It brand molds wich are solid aluminum and they Run from about $38-50 each....but they have a HUGE selection of types......I have a mold for 1,2,3,4oz inline trolling sinkers and one for No Roll Sliding sinkers which you can cast with a wire in if you don't want to use the weight as a slider

If you have access to CNC machining equipment.....get some good aluminum stock from a scrapyard and you are golden[color=blue]
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:00 pm
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steveo wrote:
Are molds for weights expensive? or hard to find?
I have seen a few at Fisherman's Warehouse in Cupertino a long time ago.. but its been for ever since i have been in there.. I will check next weekend when i go to stock up for the Catalina trip.

if a mold is hard thing to find for a decent price... do you have to use cast iron for the mold?.. or can you get away with an aluminum mold?

If aluminum works.. I can make custom shapes.. I have access to CNC equipment.


The molds that I've used are aluminium. They use to sell "blank" molds for cutom creations.. I use Do-It molds but I do miss the Hilts molds... I liked those a lot...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:03 pm
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Well guys...........I AM BACK.......You MIGHT remember me as DSRTEGL......now I am the older and a bit slower version. Want to keep this thread alive as I am coming up with some interesting new designs for sinker molds using plaster of paris..........I will keep posting information here as the work progresses......First order of business is to produce a mold that makes pencil weights, followed by one that makes round "egg sinkers" that can double as shot for my slingshot and a mold for pyramid sinkers.

If you remember me from before I am a real DIY person....and while I SWEAR by Do-It-Molds due to the quality of their product...THEY ARE PRICEY......So if I can successfully create molds out of plaster of paris I can save anybody wanting to make their own weights affordably quite a bit of money since MOST places sell scrap lead for only $1.00/pound

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:17 pm
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do it molds are outdate designs and none of their stuff is more than 3-4 oz. All good if you are into fishing for crappies but if you fish in the ocean, you need the big 12-24 oz weights and jig heads at 6-12 oz. Do it doesn't sell this kind of stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:20 pm
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FishingRonin wrote:
do it molds are outdate designs and none of their stuff is more than 3-4 oz. All good if you are into fishing for crappies but if you fish in the ocean, you need the big 12-24 oz weights and jig heads at 6-12 oz. Do it doesn't sell this kind of stuff.


Yah they do

http://store.do-itmolds.com/Ultra-Minnow-JigbrSz-5-6-8brHk-91715brCollar-Holder_p_1046.html

http://store.do-itmolds.com/Spire-Point-JigbrSz-20brHk-34081brCollar-Flair_p_442.html

http://store.do-itmolds.com/Flutter-JigbrSz-7-and-9-ozbrHk-35517-3551-or-7790XbrCollar-NA_p_968.html

http://store.do-itmolds.com/In-Line-Trolling-SinkerbrSz-64_p_677.html

http://store.do-itmolds.com/Pyramid-SinkerbrSz-8-10_p_650.html

http://store.do-itmolds.com/No-Roll-SinkerbrSz-6-8_p_641.html

Shall I go on???????

I am not in any way associated with Do-It Molds......I just like a good product

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:02 pm
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Dereklayne1966@gmail.com wrote:

Yah they do

http://store.do-itmolds.com/Ultra-Minnow-JigbrSz-5-6-8brHk-91715brCollar-Holder_p_1046.html
Outdated design that was probably from the 1940's. No one uses these anymore

http://store.do-itmolds.com/Spire-Point-JigbrSz-20brHk-34081brCollar-Flair_p_442.html
Another outdated crappy design. Have yet to see anyone use these.

http://store.do-itmolds.com/Flutter-JigbrSz-7-and-9-ozbrHk-35517-3551-or-7790XbrCollar-NA_p_968.html
Sorry but I'm not letting this pass as a legit mold. Its crap and no different than a long piece of metal hammered out. Whats the point of a mold if stuff comes out like that?

http://store.do-itmolds.com/In-Line-Trolling-SinkerbrSz-64_p_677.html
This one gets a pass

http://store.do-itmolds.com/Pyramid-SinkerbrSz-8-10_p_650.html
This one too

http://store.do-itmolds.com/No-Roll-SinkerbrSz-6-8_p_641.html
LOL

Shall I go on???????

I am not in any way associated with Do-It Molds......I just like a good product
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:12 pm
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Now let me show you some quality molds. Do It is the walmart/kmart stuff...in other words, garbage. If you're going to pour your own lead, get stuff from this guy. I don't think Do It has any of the newly improved designed stuff, just stuff from the leave it to beaver years.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Saltwater-Shad-jig-3-mold-8-10-12oz-CNC-Aluminum-/122141251824?hash=item1c702f98f0:g:wnEAAOSwxp9W~Jw~
Comes in 3-4-6 oz sizes also

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Saltwater-Fish-Jig-mold-1-2-3-4oz-CNC-Aluminum-/112134776969?hash=item1a1bc0e889:g:oSEAAOSwQjNW~Kjx

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Saltwater-Bullet-Jig-mold-2-4-6-8-10oz-CNC-Aluminum-/122113779464?hash=item1c6e8c6708:g:5aoAAOSwxp9W~L~X

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Saltwater-Shad-Paddle-Tail-2-6-mold-CNC-Aluminum-Trolling-Rockfish-/112141781018?hash=item1a1c2bc81a:g:fEMAAOSwJQdW~Jsz

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Saltwater-D-Jig-3-Bumpy-mold-8-10-12oz-CNC-Aluminum-Diamond-/112133327893?hash=item1a1baacc15:g:dDIAAOSwxcRW~K0g
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:39 pm
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Dereklayne1966@gmail.com wrote:

Yah they do

http://store.do-itmolds.com/Ultra-Minnow-JigbrSz-5-6-8brHk-91715brCollar-Holder_p_1046.html
Outdated design that was probably from the 1940's. No one uses these anymore

http://store.do-itmolds.com/Spire-Point-JigbrSz-20brHk-34081brCollar-Flair_p_442.html
Another outdated crappy design. Have yet to see anyone use these.

http://store.do-itmolds.com/Flutter-JigbrSz-7-and-9-ozbrHk-35517-3551-or-7790XbrCollar-NA_p_968.html
Sorry but I'm not letting this pass as a legit mold. Its crap and no different than a long piece of metal hammered out. Whats the point of a mold if stuff comes out like that?

http://store.do-itmolds.com/In-Line-Trolling-SinkerbrSz-64_p_677.html
This one gets a pass

http://store.do-itmolds.com/Pyramid-SinkerbrSz-8-10_p_650.html
This one too

http://store.do-itmolds.com/No-Roll-SinkerbrSz-6-8_p_641.html
LOL

Shall I go on???????

I am not in any way associated with Do-It Molds......I just like a good product
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:15 pm
Dereklayne1966@gmail.com


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I use Do-It Molds because I can afford them....They are perfectly adequate for what they do and I am casting leads for personal use and not production.....As for outdated design.....If it works it works.....I still use Penn Reels....Some of which are older than me and they still do the job......

I have seen that makers C&C Milled designs...and they are nice.....But way too expensive unless you are in a higher tax bracket than I am.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:08 am
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Finding TRUE SOFT LEAD is getting damn near impossible these days due to the EPA attack on the American lead producers leading to all the lead manufacturers in the US that I know of closing their doors.

To the best of my knowledge....All manufactured lead now comes in from overseas.....

That being said I would appreciate a heads up if any of you know of a good source of scrap lead with the sheets of roofing lead being the best stuff. I am willing to pay up to $1.00/pound for the good stuff which is more than you will get at a salvage yard.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:00 pm
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I have not tried this yet myself but this is an interesting method for producing pencil sinkers. English was the second lenguage for the person that contacted me so the translation took a while. It is in theory a good idea and makes use of recycled materials which I like.

Cut your aluminum cans (beer, soda) into sheets and roll those sheets around a mandrel (wood dowel) to form a tube and then secure it with masking tape. Do not wrap the aluminum sheet too tight on the mandrel or you will not be able to slide it off. He recommended this be done to make thinner pencil sinkers ( 1/4" dia +/-) so the aluminum will last a little longer. put a barrel swivel in one end of the tube held in place with masking tape and you pour the melted lead into the open end of the tube......if wanted....you can push another barrel swivel into that end before the lead sets to make an inline sinker. as soon as the lead begins to set you drop the aluminum tube mold into a bucket of water.....THAT MAKES ME A LITTLE NERVOUS.....But he said that this helps the aluminum take a memory to make forming the tube easier on repeated castings. Now if you made a sinker with a swivel in both ends you can cut that sinker to any length you want and still have a pencil weight with a swivel at one end if you can see what I am saying. Longer pencil sinkers can be made by using the taller aluminum cans......I am thinking about a similar process using STEEL FOIL.....If I can get my hands on some.....I will try and make some sinkers using the process and I will let you know how that goes.

More Later

DerekLayne

formerly known as DSRTEGL

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:30 am
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Tried casting some weights using this process as proof of concept and it worked just fine. Make the tubes as thin as possible so it leaves the tubes with thicker walls. In future I will anneal the aluminum sheets to soften them so wrapping them around a thin mandrel will be easier. Unwrapping the aluminum from the lead is easy enough and the aluminum CAN be reused. It does not make a pretty weight by any means but they will fish and I don't think the fish will know the difference.

Reuse and recycle....that is my thing......and these weights are all 100% recycled materials except for the swivels

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