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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:05 pm
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Thinking of hitting the mole tomorrow since i have a day off. Anyone else planning on fishing it? Couple of questions...will probally just bring a rod or 2, and the least amount of stuff possible, but ii know ill probally end up bringing more than i plan.
(1) is there a bathroom nearby
(2) if i catch something i want to keep like a nice sheephead, do they sell ice nearby, or should i just bring a cooler w. ice.
(3) If i decide i bring a cart, can i just roll it onboard and keep it with me or will i have to put it into a luggage storage area out of sight.
(4) how far of a walk is it over to the green pleasure pier in case not much is happening at the mole and is there the same kelp snagging problem.
(5) any nearby areas from shore worth trying...have a bunch of gulp jerk shad and some slug lures and creature baits i want to try for calicos or whatever..

Thanks in advance...welcome any advice or pms

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:23 pm
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Well Parking your vehicle is one thing, 15 bucks a day even if your a few hours over the 24 hour period.

No ice nearby from what know of, you have to walk 1/4 mile to the store or the pier have ice too.

the pier isnt a good place to fish except for night time, during the day you might get hassled by the boat coming in and going out.

not sure if your even allowed past the mole to fish going south wise during the day or night, and near the casino there is no fishing there during the day because of scuba people going there. not sure how it is during the weekdays.

I would love to go again, but need more time of notice before heading out. One or Two poles are fine, dont need to hog up all the spaces unless you are alone. a bucket with rope to bring up water, and a live fish well basket to drop down to keep your fish alive or if you want a small cooler if you are bringing a cart, you might need to tell the people you have a cart, they might charge extra im not sure ask mahigeer he an expert on that, he also a senior. so who knows. hahah JK mahigeer!

the restroom are close by, but make sure you have your real valueable close by i would say 75 yards away from the mole and go between boat coming in's.


I hope you have fun if you go. take some pictures

Good Luck.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:33 pm
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I will post the answers to your questions, rather than PM, so others may benefit from it.

(1)is there a bathroom nearby
Yes, there is. As well as a snack shop and a place to store your gear if needed. Tell Martin (if he is there, that you are my friend).


(2) if i catch something i want to keep like a nice sheephead, do they sell ice nearby, or should i just bring a cooler w. ice.
There are two markets that carry ice. One directly across from the GPP.
The problem is having someone watching your stuff, when you are going to town. I never had a problem, but a sheriff was telling me there may be some kids that are stealing tackles.
You may be able to buy some from the café. They have ice for their drinks.

A cooler to take bait and bring back fish is recommended. I use a basket to keep the fish fresh in the water during the stay at the Mole.


(3) If i decide i bring a cart, can i just roll it onboard and keep it with me or will i have to put it into a luggage storage area out of sight.

You have to store it where directed. It is safe, since no one can have access to it en route. One boat has the storage area behind the seat, but it is roped-off.


(4) how far of a walk is it over to the green pleasure pier in case not much is happening at the mole and is there the same kelp snagging problem.
A rope and pier gaff can help with the kelp situation. A small bucket for water for washing hands is also useful.

About 5-10 min depending how fast you go. I would not recommend fishing at the GPP, due to lack of railing space and problem with all sorts of rope and chains. The platform that is attached to the GPP during the summer months, really affects the fishing space. If you can take tour anyways.


(5) any nearby areas from shore worth trying...have a bunch of gulp jerk shad and some slug lures and creature baits i want to try for calicos or whatever.

On another website, I saw reports of good bites on Southside (inside the bay) of the jetty at Casino.
North side is off-limits.


More information in my past reports.


I hope you see this post in time. There is slight possibility that I may be there on Saturday, 30th of this
Month. I don’t know if you want to wait.

If tomorrow is your BDay, print a voucher online tonight for a free round trip ride.

Best wishes, and post a report or/and pictures if you can.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:01 am
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Any news?


Did you go, any bonito?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:40 pm
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Yesi went. Thanks for the advice. No bonito, just sporadic macks. I tried plastic, gulp, no takers. Some guy was catching big opaleye...in the 1.5 to 4 lb range. I watched his technique and gotta say i was impresses and schooled. I tried peas and got small blacksmith, senorita, and calicos...all released. When i used market shrimp, i mostly got senorita..call me the senorita king. Couldnt believe how many fish are there, but they are expert bait stealers. /4Got there late because i missed the first boat so maybe the bonita bite is in the morning if there is any. Right before departure, some guy ariving for the last boat dropped his line down first cast using a dropshot gulp..nailed like a 3 lb grassy. My rig with squid at times cut mack thrown out a bit went untouched. Oh well, i got schooled. Cool ride over and back...not used to getting to catalina so fast...most of the party boats travel over at a snails pace...like 4 knots and so the ride takes forever. Passed by the whole 3/4 day fleet fishing the horseshoe area probally nailing the sandies and barracuda? I think if i go back, id just take 1rod, a little backpack and some fresh frozen bait and go really light and try the shore areas. When i fish mdr, thats how i do it, but of course i have the luxury of my truck nearby with a cooler with ice and drinks.

Interesting place to fish...people waiting for thenext departure back sidle up to you to talk which can be cool if the fishing is kind of slow. Had a group of first graders bumrush me while waiting for the boat when they see me pull a blacksmith out...all asking me questions. I see they all are wearing the same color t-shirts and this young teacher is trying to get them all back to the the waiting area calling them by name. So i help her out cause all they want to do is watch people fish and i say to her , " field trip?". Shes like, "yes, a very long one...thank god its almost over". I kind of chuckle to myself because that was me a couple of months ago with some 3rd graders on a boat field trip so i knew exactly how she felt. She finally gets them all back to the waiting area , safe out of the casting zone, then one of them strays off again and i can hear her saying, "Ok im going to count to 3..1, 2,.., ". It was like she was trying to herd cats.so they finally leave. Then there was this whole family of adults, that descended upon the area all around me, they all looked kind of sketchy so i was keeping an eye on my things, but they were nice. Dont know where they got them but they had some kind of trot line and wanted to try fishing but had no bait or sinkers, so i gave them some. Then they were all trying to bum cigarettes off each other, but each would refer the cigarette bummer to another family member claiming the one they were smoking was their last one. While this was happening their line went unattended and of course...over it went, because it only had like 25 feet of line on it..then the lady with the tot line was shouting ," Who was supposed to be holding the fishing pole (they called this trot line a fishing pole) ". One guy says, "Dont look at me, i was looking for a cigarette." They were kind of funny. I ended up with lots of blacksmith, some small calicos, countless senorita. Lost a nice opaleye. Glad i read one of your posts and brought some peas...ghost shrimp might of been better for the opaleye. Next time i go, i want to either go light for just the day, or take a bunch of stuff and invest a little time beforehand procuring the proper baits, do some planning, and do maybe an overnighter like you did. I think the thing to do is wait for the bonito to start showing up in the counts on the boats that hit catalina, like the pursuit on wednesday. When they do, you probally have a much better chance of catching some bones.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:23 pm
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best thing for opaleye is peas, good market ones and a small hook like a 6 or 8 put two or three on there.

But glad you had fun, yeah lots of people are curious what is caught glad you did have problems, i thought there was no smoking on the mole. thats was wierd, but oh well.
Glad you had fun.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:33 pm
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Yes, was fun despite being kind of slow. Trouble with peas, other fish eat them as well and once defrosted, they dont stay on the hook wel. Ive never caught calicos with them anywhere else...it might have something go do with those fish food pellets in that coin machine. That boat is cool...i took a boat from hong kong to macau just like that about 20 years ago.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:09 pm
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Thats good.
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But glad you had fun, yeah lots of people are curious what is caught glad you did have problems,

I meant to say Glad you did not have any problems.

was to late to edit it.

Also the slower the boats go, the more they save on gas especially on the party boats they can go faster but what for. just a harder ride on the charter boats it seems. going 8 to 12 knots seems right while the catamaran goes like 18-25 knots or faster.
I might go for my birthday, not sure yet, its in august, but who knows, not even I.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:21 pm
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Well, i was talking to this lady in line who was asking me about the fishing. She said it was her bday and she not only got the ride for free, but got a 2 for 1 deal on parasailing and a free dinner at an avalon restaurant, said it was really good food. She showed me some brochure...with other deals you can get while on the island on your b- day...so that maybe more incentive. I think you get that brochure at the tourist info center when you get off the boat, but im sure u can find out more if u search online. 1 more reason to travel light.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:32 pm
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It seems you had fun.

There are just too many tips to mention, so I narrowed the answers to your questions. I had hoped that you get a chance to read some of my past posts.

Peas and green beans are good to catch many fish there. Chumming a few each time you send the rig down is a good trick.

For Opaleye, I bought a new chumming mixture from a Korean tackle shop.
The owner said that one of the chum powders will float to the top to attract the small fish. The second chum in the mix will sink to attract the Opaleye and other bigger fish.
In the meantime, moss and/or peas, six-eight feet or so below the surface will catch the fish.

I will be trying it next time I am there.

On other notes;
Smoking on the Mole is allowed. On GPP, there is a place at the foot of the pier that smoking is allowed, but not at the end. However, an old NO Smoking sign at the end was gone last time I was there.

The handline rigs with red or blue plastic holders are sold on the GPP at the Joe’s Boat Rental. Mostly a souvenir item. White thread with a small section of a mono, one hook and one sinker.

Those catamarans also travel between Asia and Europe part of the Istanbul. They are called “sea buses” there. I wish they had them when I was living there. Would have saved some time going to school and back.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:53 pm
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ARCADIAN wrote:
Thats good.
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But glad you had fun, yeah lots of people are curious what is caught glad you did have problems,

I meant to say Glad you did not have any problems.

was to late to edit it.

Also the slower the boats go, the more they save on gas especially on the party boats they can go faster but what for. just a harder ride on the charter boats it seems. going 8 to 12 knots seems right while the catamaran goes like 18-25 knots or faster.
I might go for my birthday, not sure yet, its in august, but who knows, not even I.
Smile


Yeah, maybe they go 8 knots tops, but it seems slower to me, like 4-6. Id rather have a slightly rougher ride and more fishing time. They used to get their faster, and move more frequently between spots whwn gas was cheaper.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:08 pm
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Mahigeer wrote:
It seems you had fun.

There are just too many tips to mention, so I narrowed the answers to your questions. I had hoped that you get a chance to read some of my past posts.

Peas and green beans are good to catch many fish there. Chumming a few each time you send the rig down is a good trick.

For Opaleye, I bought a new chumming mixture from a Korean tackle shop.
The owner said that one of the chum powders will float to the top to attract the small fish. The second chum in the mix will sink to attract the Opaleye and other bigger fish.
In the meantime, moss and/or peas, six-eight feet or so below the surface will catch the fish.

I will be trying it next time I am there.

On other notes;
Smoking on the Mole is allowed. On GPP, there is a place at the foot of the pier that smoking is allowed, but not at the end. However, an old NO Smoking sign at the end was gone last time I was there.

The handline rigs with red or blue plastic holders are sold on the GPP at the Joe’s Boat Rental. Mostly a souvenir item. White thread with a small section of a mono, one hook and one sinker.

Those catamarans also travel between Asia and Europe part of the Istanbul. They are called “sea buses” there. I wish they had them when I was living there. Would have saved some time going to school and back.


You talking about those boats that ferry passengers across the aegean sea? I island hopped about half way across to Crete from Athens also when i was younger and remember them being painfully slow. I think it took like 2 days to get to Crete from one of the islands like Santorini so you had to sleep in your chair. If we're talking about the same boats, yeah, they were like tugboat speed.

Next time i hit the mole, ill be bringing some slip bobbers if im going go fish opaleye. Anyways, pretty fun stuff, forgot about opaleye. Redondo used to have big ones growing up and we would catch them with peas under a bobber. Now, theyre all puny probally because of overfishing.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:39 pm
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There were Catamarans, when I went back in 1995.


There were not in service when I was there for a visit in 1973, nor when I lived there before 1970.


As for opaleye, I have caught them with ghost shrimp, mussels and peas. I have seen them caught with moss, but I haven't caught any with moss myself.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:15 pm
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Nice opaleye, too bad it wasn't mine


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:01 pm
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I will be targeting them this coming weekend with a new chum system.

I also got an "Alabama rig" to try for bonito.


Long report and lots of pictures to follow.
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