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Subject: See Ya Later, Old Board
Name: songslinger
Date: May-30-08 6:21pm
Link: http://www.songslinger.net/fishing.html

I met a lot of great people because of this board. Many thanks to those who ran it and those who grabbed it and hung on for the ride.



peace
shantih
shalom
salaam
shine on spark of the divine

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Subject: well said!
Name: gordo grande
Date: May-30-08 6:55pm

Well said, Glenn.

I'm going to miss this place. This website not only improved my fishing, it changed my life. I met many of my best friends here. It may have been a clunky interface, but that never mattered to me.

Onward to the new board!

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Subject: Clunky? I prefer to think that it was simple.
Name: Ken Jones
Date: May-30-08 8:21pm

A good board for extended discussions but people, attitudes and preferences have changed.

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Subject: I remember Snookie saying that you used to have ..
Name: Ken Jones
Date: May-31-08 11:25am

to have a license to catch a yellowfin croaken on the piers. I'd like to trace down when the various changes took place. Guess there must be an archives of all the various F&G Commission decisions but the search will have to happen another day.

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Subject: The End of an Era
Name: Jimbojack
Date: May-31-08 10:24am

Evolution, technological advances. Its hard to drive a Model T when a new Ferrari is sitting in your driveway. I'll miss this old board, but hopefully all the people that made it so good will stick around.

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Subject: The people and their attitudes make the board.
Name: Ken Jones
Date: May-31-08 1:23pm

The technology may help but the strength comes from the people on the board and the respect shown to one another. The knowledgeable must be willing to share and those seeking knowledge must be willing to listen.

When I stated the board I hoped it would allow pier anglers to meet, share a few ideas, and grow as anglers. Little did I know the amount of information that would be shared over the years and the growth that would take place for many (including myself). But growth is rarely steady or infinite; it remains to be seen what new directions will take place in the second decade of this site.

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Subject: It is pretty amazing...
Name: Jimbojack
Date: May-31-08 3:24pm

when you think about it. The vast amount of information that has been shared on this board, the alliances made to help save our fishing rights, and most importantly the lifelong friendships that started here. Thanks to everyone.

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Subject: Jim, remember these posts?
Name: Ken Jones
Date: May-31-08 4:21pm

Date: June 14, 2001
To: PFIC Message Board
From: jimbojack
Subject: Seal Beach

If you're looking for halibut, use live bait and drop your line straight down almost anywhere along the pier. Corbina have been caught up in the surf and some sargo inside the breakwall lately. Perch bite has dropped off. The sharks and rays are generally taken more from the deep end, but do sneak into the shallower water depending on the tides, availability of bait, etc. Use live smelt, queenfish, chunk mackerel, or whole squid for the big boys and cast out as far as you can. There is an artificial reef along the deep end of the north side. That is the only spot I've ever caught bass, but watch for snags in that area. Never had a problem catching plenty of live bait with a Sabiki at Seal.

Date: September 1, 2001
To: PFIC Message Board
From: jimbojack
Subject: Seal Beach Pier 8/31/01

Finally made it out to a pier on Friday night as the Mrs. gave me a break from baby duty. Got to the pier with Grandpa about 4:30 PM and he waited a few minutes while I attempted to catch sand crabs on the north side of the pier. Big mistake. After about 15 minutes, I had maybe six crabs for my efforts. Went up on the pier and got him situated on the first benches over the water while I went back to try for more sand crabs. Tip: get your crabs on the south side of the pier. Even better under the pier, but watch out when big waves come in and crash into the pilings. Sends spray everywhere. Prepare to get wet and maybe bring some dry clothes.
So we fished in the surf area for a few hours and I caught one 6 yellowfin croaker. We moved to the benches just opposite the tower and Gramps tosses out a larger sand crab on a #2 hook. Meanwhile I brought in a decent 11 yellowfin croaker, when BAM! Gramp's pole goes off and he's got a real fight on with his lightweight gear. Gets the fish up by the pier and we were reluctant to drop the net because the end of the seawall is right there. So he asks me to handline it up and I was nervous the whole time as I thought the fish would fall off at any second. It was just getting dark and at first I thought it might be a small WSB, but as I got it a ways up I could tell it was a big corbina. It was the biggest he has ever caught in 70 years of fishing the Pacific and would not part with it. (Sorry Mola Joe) Grandpa was real excited as he doesn't fish much any more and usually has rotten luck when he does. Caught a few more small croaker on sand crabs and thin strips of squid. I caught a 12 stingray and 14 leopard shark with whole squid on a 6/0 octopus hook. Missed the hookup on a few good runs. Saw a small bat ray and lots of tiny yellowfin croaker caught. Beautiful evening as the wind was mild after sunset. Left about 10:30 feeling pretty good to see an old guy so happy. Jim

Date: November 13, 2001
To: PFIC Message Board
From: jimbojack
Subject: Biggest Fish From A Pier

Big skate- 32" wingspan, 42" length. Estimated weight at 25 lbs. I got this beast last January or February. I caught it from the Seal Beach pier out near the bait shack. Bait was chunk mackerel I think. It's not my longest pier fish, (I've caught longer sharks) but it was certainly the heaviest and best fighter from a pier. Made a few good runs and I thought I was tangled up on the pilings, but managed to pull him out. My arms were tired! My grandma took the pictures with her camera and just got the film developed. If you have never eaten a skate, you should try it. Very tender white meat, a little stringy like crab, very delicate flavor, and not fishy at all. Jim

Date: March 3, 2002
To: PFIC Message Board
From: jimbojack
Subject: Seal Beach Pier Friday 3/1/02

Didn't get a chance to post until now. My daughter who just turned seven months cuts into message board time. I don't mind one bit. Got out to the pier with my grandpa about 4:30 PM and it was a little breezy. He went on the pier, I went for the shore. Very few sand crabs and very tiny. I was putting 4 at a time on my # 6 hook. Only a few subtle hits and no hookups. Maybe I should try Mola's technique and let it go in freespool as it seemed the fish were just mouthing the bait. Tried lugworms and grubs with no luck. Went on the pier at dark and met a guy named Nick. He was at the fish cleaning station with what looked to be some good-sized corbina and yellowfin croakers which were beheaded and gutted.
Grandpa hadn't caught anything except for some smelt. He was way out by the bait shack. We fished for a while using a variety of baits, and I was beginning to think I would get skunked. The wind died down and it was beautiful. Slow until about 7:30, I remembered the lugworms and tried those. Started getting queenfish like crazy. Got a bite and thought it was a mackerel on steroids, but turned out to be about a 10 [yellow snake] eel. Threw him out live for shark bait but no luck. Grandpa pulled in a small corbina about 9" and about a minute later I got another corbina about 18". Grandpa got a good sized round stingray on chunk mackerel. The rest of the night was a few thornbacks on mackerel and squid and queenfish on worms. Jim



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Subject: Yeah
Name: Jimbojack
Date: Jun-1-08 12:29am

The good old days. I actually had time to fish and file reports. Lets raise our glass to this old board and welcome the new.

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Subject: Re: The End of an Era
Name: kelpangler
Date: May-31-08 3:43pm

"I'll miss this old board, but hopefully all the people that made it so good will stick around."

Man, I hope so! I don't see why a change in the board format should prevent the sharing and camaraderie that's kept this site active.

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Subject: You can check out any time you like...
Name: dompfa ben
Date: Jun-1-08 1:00pm

but you can never leave. I look forward to continued friendships, scintillating debate, and detailed reports on the new board.

WALSTIB.

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